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Is there anybody in the land who will be really happy about the content of the deal ? Probably by it’s inevitable nature, not, so it’s finally brought unity in a sort of shit way.

There'll be a lot of general relief that we're not going to starve in the immediate future, followed by a long drawn-out period of wondering why exactly we bothered with any of this. It's going to be impossible to tell the economic consequences of this apart from the economic consequences of Johnson's other pet project of turning the UK into Europe's finest covid-19 habitat, and these twin catastrophes will probably somehow intertwine in a way that gives Johnson enough excuses to drag his premiership on until 2024 because that's just the way things seem to work out these days.
 
How much difference is that than before this deal?

I've been in South Korea for the last 15 years and two years in Germany before that, so excuse my ignorance.

its about half of what you could bring back before the deal

but they can waive their Black/Blue passports at the EU custom checks
 
The deal is no doubt gonna be shite, but surely better than no deal - which is the outcome I was expecting. Seems that Macron may have given the Johnson government a taste of what could be with the border closure.
 
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That isn't true, you couldn't just buy a million fags in Germany and bring them back to the UK before this deal.
There wasn't a fixed, specific limit. 'for personal use' was the test, and that could include stocking up on booze for a party or buying a year's worth of baccy for yourself.
 
There wasn't a fixed, specific limit. 'for personal use' was the test, and that could include stocking up on booze for a party or buying a year's worth of baccy for yourself.

So, the 'for personal use' has gone, and the EU haven't even done this, the UK have done it to tax people more! HAhahaha. What a mess!
 
the rule of thumb was you were allowed to move as much personal use gear as you could justify if it had been subject to normal taxes in another EU country
 
the rule of thumb was you were allowed to move as much personal use gear as you could justify if it had been subject to normal taxes in another EU country

moving a trunk full of tobacco from Belgium to the UK would normally end up with you getting nicked mind
 
no limits for personal consumption. applied to pretty much anything bought within the single market rea not just consumable alko and snout. but these were the ones with the greatest tax differential
 
So, basically things are the same as before then?


What is this no limit for personal?


Can anyone confirm this has 100% stopped now?

There is now a set limit. 100%?
 
Are you sure?
There wasn't a specific limit, but if they thought what you had was intended for sale, they could and would confiscate it. ie pretty much anything less than 'shitloads' was fine. Stocking up on dozens of pouches of baccy was ok. I did it many times. The Belgian exchequer did better out of me than the British one.

Of course a ton of smuggling also went on. I know of a few offies that used to do very good deals on smuggled cans of beer. There's a reason they were cheaper than supermarkets. But a van full of cans of lager was likely to be in trouble if stopped.
 
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