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[ska invita]

in respect of a ‘deal’ it was an inevitability

is this outcome what you voted for - are you satisfied, all things considered?

 

[philosophical]

I thought the impetus to support exit was about nationalism.
There are implications associated with the concept of nationalism.

 

[The39thStep]

Any deal that ensures Spanish lettuces in UK supermarkets in the winter months has to be a good result imo

 

[teuchter]

I can’t speak for other supporters of ‘Leave’ but there’s really nothing to have gone into hiding about.

I wonder why the notable silence, compared to a year or two ago, then.

 

[not-bono-ever]

That scorecard is propagandistic shite on the whole.

ETA. No fucking rigour or objectivity

 

[Maltin]

What do you think the population of the UK is?

Official stats have it round 66.7m, where are the other 25+m?

46 million did not vote. Only 72% of those voted, about 33m, being less than 50% of the total population.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

It really sums up these arseholes doesn’t it? It’s not about negotiating what’s best or finding a compromise, it’s just a game, a contest to be “won”. Public schoolboy cunts playing a rugby match with peoples lives.

 

[teuchter]

And what happened to "leave fight transform"?

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We left a year ago. Then silence. Where is the fighting and transforming?

 

[Pickman's model]

46 million did not vote. Only 72% of those voted, about 33m, being less than 50% of the total population.

Good point well made

 

[Pickman's model]

46 million did not vote. Only 72% of those voted, about 33m, being less than 50% of the total population.

However as I pointed out during the ref campaign there was precedent enacting the result in a 50/50 split on a 50% of the electorate, namely the Welsh devolution referendum. So the stupidity remains in enacting change on a major constitutional issue on an insubstantial margin.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Apparently the stars are right

Brexit trade and security deal with EU within 'touching distance', says No 10

Boris Johnson briefs cabinet on breakthrough and is expected to address nation early on Christmas Eve

www.theguardian.com

Which means great cthulhu will awake from his sleep at r'lyeh

That may well be true, but he had better get a move on, as his status as a potential immigrant may well change after the transition period ends. Furthermore the precise location of sunken R'lyeh could lead to territorial waters disputes, especially regarding fishing quotas.

 

[A380]

It really sums up these arseholes doesn’t it? It’s not about negotiating what’s best or finding a compromise, it’s just a game, a contest to be “won”. Public schoolboy cunts playing a rugby match with peoples lives.

I bet none of the current cabinet played rugby at school. It requires a modicum of courage and (unless playing for Saracens*) a sense of honour to abide by the laws or the game doesn’t work). They’d have got a note from their nanny.



Knocking over 10 year olds is more their style.




* spoken as a Saries fan

 

[The39thStep]

The thread is transforming into The Brexit Re-enactment Society

 

[Raheem]

Let's wait till the deal is confirmed before writing off no deal

There's no chance of no deal now. It would take something totally unexpected, like Johnson starting to deny having agreed to things that are in the agreement.

 

[Pickman's model]

There's no chance of no deal now. It would take something totally unexpected, like Johnson starting to deny having agreed to things that are in the agreement.

I'll say one thing for Boris Johnson, his incompetence never fails to astound

He is proof of that adage attributed to Einstein that the difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits

 

[bimble]

Can’t believe I fell for the 8am press conference idea from Laura kuensberg’s tweeting. Just shows that the compulsion to promise things you think people will like to hear is what they do to everyone.
“Some hours” left to run now apparently.

 

[brogdale]

What do you think the population of the UK is?

Official stats have it round 66.7m, where are the other 25+m?

Put the sherry down for a mo.....

My workings:-



as a % of:



means that 51.15% of the (then) UK population engaged with the referendum.

Sherry can now be picked up again!

 

[weltweit]

Whatever the deal is you can be sure the tory ERG types will moan loudly..

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

That may well be true, but he had better get a move on, as his status as a potential immigrant may well change after the transition period ends. Furthermore the precise location of sunken R'lyeh could lead to territorial waters disputes, especially regarding fishing quotas.

I should have added that I am not a trained lawyer and I would recommend that Great Cthulhu obtain proper legal advice.

 

[brogdale]

That'll be courtesy of Starmer's LP vote?

 

[Raheem]

Sherry can now be picked up again!

I thought we were clear at the outset: No sherry-picking!

 

[bimble]

Everyone’s a winner, great news.

 

[weltweit]

The provisional agreement is apparently 2,000 pages.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Very good for lawyers, is brexit.

A golden era for bureaucrats.

 

[Pickman's model]

Very good for lawyers, is brexit.

A golden era for bureaucrats.

There speaks a man who hasn't paid attention to the government's proposals for its bureaucrats

 

[Yossarian]

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Everyone’s a winner, great news.

Piscine our time.

 

[Raheem]

There speaks a man who hasn't paid attention to the government's proposals for its bureaucrats

They will work from home in Eastern Europe.

 

[Pickman's model]

The provisional agreement is apparently 2,000 pages.

1,998 of them the EU's mocking laughter at the roast beef-eating surrender monkeys

 

[Pickman's model]

Can’t believe I fell for the 8am press conference idea from Laura kuensberg’s tweeting. Just shows that the compulsion to promise things you think people will like to hear is what they do to everyone.
“Some hours” left to run now apparently.

Haha

 

[not-bono-ever]

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Everyone’s a winner, great news.

Not the fish. Somehow I don’t get the feeling that we will be entering a new era of enforced stock management and conservation. The free market will finish off whatever is left now they are unleashed. Limpets are the new cockles