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[platinumsage]

The whole country is weary of this. They will almost certainly support the deal no matter what's in it.

The SNP won't. They want to use Brexit as leverage to promote independence, regardless of the details.

 

[TopCat]

Well yeah; scare the bejesus out of the population with apocalyptic visions and, of course, they'll buy the lesser shitshow. Almost like that was the "strategy" all along?

The visions of the apocalypse have generally come from remainers and never looked likely, just scare stories to attach to anti brexit abuse.

 

[Pickman's model]

philosophical will be disappointed if there's no mass starvation

 

[ska invita]

Well yeah; scare the bejesus out of the population with apocalyptic visions and, of course, they'll buy the lesser shitshow. Almost like that was the "strategy" all along?

Its not a cover up, theyve delivered the key Brexit demands:
sovereignty
points based migration
w full access to the common market + zero tariffs (aside from new bureaucratic costs)

 

[TopCat]

The SNP won't. They want to use Brexit as leverage to promote independence, regardless of the details.

They are a different country.

 

[platinumsage]

They are a different country.

Pretty sure this Brexit deal applies to the UK, not just England.

 

[Pickman's model]

Its not a cover up, theyve delivered the key Brexit demands:
sovereignty
points based migration
w full access to the common market + zero tariffs (aside from new bureaucratic costs)

So why haven't they had the conference to proclaim victory?

 

[TopCat]

Pretty sure this Brexit deal applies to the UK, not just England.

Yeah but i only referred to England.

 

[brogdale]

The visions of the apocalypse have generally come from remainers and never looked likely, just scare stories to attach to anti brexit abuse.

Wherever they've come from they've worked for these purposes of the Johnson regime; gratitude now guaranteed.

 

[TopCat]

So why haven't they had the conference to proclaim victory?

Last minute trickery from Macron?

 

[bimble]

So why haven't they had the conference to proclaim victory?

Because they’re still haggling over the anchovy harvest.

 

[TopCat]

Wherever they've come from they've worked for these purposes of the Johnson regime; gratitude now guaranteed.

Remainers did so much to get us to where we are.

 

[mauvais]

Thats not true

If you live your life one context-free freeze frame at a time, then I can absolutely see that Lexit is real and a success, in the same way that, say, the hijacking of United 93 on the morning of September 11, 2001 was a big win for anyone who'd always wanted a go on an airline drinks cart.

Otherwise, not a thing.

 

[Pickman's model]

Remainers did so much to get us to where we are.

On the verge of a new relationship with the eu

 

[brogdale]

Remainers did so much to get us to where we are.

Personally, I blame any of the 51% of the population that joined in with the fucking stupid tory referendum.

 

[bimble]

Remainers did so much to get us to where we are.

Are you not happy with the outcome?

 

[TopCat]

Are you not happy with the outcome?

Not seen any finalised deal let alone any detail.

 

[bimble]

Not seen any finalised deal let alone any detail.

Do you have a clear idea of what would make you be happy / not with the terms of the deal , like what % of what types of fish etc?

 

[TopCat]

Do you have a clear idea of what would make you be happy / not with the terms of the deal , like what % of what types of fish etc?

Asking the likes of me questions can be problematic.

 

[Winot]

Remainers did so much to get us to where we are.

You won - get over it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Personally, I blame any of the 51% of the population that joined in with the fucking stupid tory referendum.

The turnout apparently 72.2%, 46.5m.

 

[bimble]

If we have won more than 26% of the 2027 anchovy harvest I’ll go outside and sing rule Britannia.

 

[Pickman's model]

Do you have a clear idea of what would make you be happy / not with the terms of the deal , like what % of what types of fish etc?

Everything makes TopCat happy or not happy

 

[Pickman's model]

If we have won more than 26% of the 2027 anchovy harvest I’ll go outside and sing rule Britannia.

We have won 100% of the UK's share of the anchovy harvest so pop outside now and sing

 

[bimble]

Everything makes TopCat happy or not happy

Well, some things seem to make TopCat cross, like certain fruits.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Staines pumping the sort of 2 World Wars & 1 World Cup bollocks we're gonna be fed all day today and thereafter until 2024.

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Next crisis in 3...2...1...

 

[Pickman's model]

Well, some things seem to make TopCat cross, like certain fruits.

Yes those are the things that make him unhappy. But 100% of everything either makes him happy or unhappy apart from slavoj zizek who he just finds boring

 

[ska invita]

Details of the level playing field bit are going to be interesting...what happens re state aid for example? Sounds like its been kicked down the road for future court cases

 

[littlebabyjesus]

So basically everything is a bit worse than it was.

We lose free movement. We lose free EU healthcare. People from the EU lose that here as well.

Businesses don't have tariffs but have a whole bunch of new bureaucratic hoops to jump through. Vets are going to be busy. As are lawyers and accountants.

It's what used to be called 'hard brexit'. New borders for people but not so much for things. Victory of sorts to capital. Defeat for people.

 

[Ax^]

the deal will be shite and we have to to deal with a grinning johnson later today


can someone give him the new strain of covid the moment he hangs up on the phone with the eu