Yes, that's very true. I mainly shop at independents and I didn't notice shortages of anything except flour, and rice became difficult to get for a week or so, but that was it.
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Yes, that's very true. I mainly shop at independents and I didn't notice shortages of anything except flour, and rice became difficult to get for a week or so, but that was it.
They do, but in nowhere near the quantity the fleet can catch, and much the same is true of a lot of shellfish and - even more so - mackerel. Conversely, under no realistic fishing deal will they be able to take enough white fish to satisfy the British consumer, who's steadfastly refused to change their preferences no matter how much the price of cod goes up and however much effort is put into persuading them to try something else!
Well, exactly. The penny doesn't seem to have dropped with a lot of people that the queues to Dover and Calais are only the start of it, and at some point supply chains are going to be disrupted to the point where things become unavailable.
not-bono-ever
meh
the bloater famine of 2021
bimble
floofy
The queues right now are basically shops stocking up to avoid having empty shelves if no deal aren’t they. So it might still all be fine. Adequate Food , sunlit uplands etc.
splonkydoo
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Will there be enough marmite?
bimble
floofy
Really old article but haven’t heard anything recently about what the government is doing to secure the prize of ‘adequate food supplies’ in case of no deal. Maybe some of those trucks are headed towards government stockpiles but probably not.
www.theguardian.com
Raab admits planning to secure food supply for no-deal Brexit
Government not stockpiling food but working to prevent problems, says Brexit secretary
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Really old article but haven’t heard anything recently about what the government is doing to secure the prize of ‘adequate food supplies’ in case of no deal. Maybe some of those trucks are headed towards government stockpiles but probably not.
Raab admits planning to secure food supply for no-deal Brexit
Government not stockpiling food but working to prevent problems, says Brexit secretary
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
Boris does what’s good for Boris. He has to get a deal, the delay is all performance, so he can show how hard he’s been on the EU. No deal and he’d exit via the trap door.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Always a worry
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Depends. What are you planning?
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Daily intravenous injections.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
There'll be enough for the first shot, and I wouldn't worry about it after that.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
there is always vegemite from the australian deal if it comes to a shortage of the hated stuff
weltweit
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I am not sure I share your analysis, Johnson might prefer a deal but he has made it quite clear that he considers Britain can still thrive on a no deal exit. Is he telling porkies, is he just stating a position for the sake of his negotiations? Perhaps, but I think there is some truth that if the deal doesn't live up to expectations he feels he can take his ball away in a sulk and got to WTO terms.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Doesn't Johnson think that team GB will be totally brilliant whatever deal or no deal? That being the case he can't make a mistake, can he? We Brits will seize success from the jaws of defeat, regardless of the actions of the nanny state. Whatever happens it will be the best possible outcome.
weltweit
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It does sound obvious yes
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Supply chains are already disrupted. Not so much Dover-Calais but at the container ports like London Gateway and Felixstowe from where we get stuff like rice, beds, shirts and fairy lights. It began earlier this year when lock-downs prompted a global shortage of shipping containers and everything started being in the wrong place with not enough people to move or unload it. If a ship can't unload all it's containers in the allotted time it has to leave and the containers go on a mystery tour before they can finally be reallocated back to their destination country.
Well, that and Christmas, and there are some other logistical issues atm with congestion at certain ports (Felixstowe, especially) and a shortage of containers, which can't be helping. Problem is, though, that even if a deal is done, HM Customs and other authorities will be relying on new and untested systems, inexperienced personnel and facilities that in some cases haven't even been built yet.
'Great' minds think alike - see post above. It's a bit of a perfect storm taking shape.
EU hauliers refuse to enter the UK due to border delays
European hauliers are often paid by the kilometre, "so if they're not rolling, they're not making money"
www.thegrocer.co.uk
bimble
floofy
If that is already happening (some importers willing to pay 7,000 euro instead of 2,000 for a truck full of tomatoes to get here instead of not getting here at all) that’s bad. That’s adequate food only for people who can pay 3 times more for tomatoes.EU hauliers refuse to enter the UK due to border delays
European hauliers are often paid by the kilometre, "so if they're not rolling, they're not making money"
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
All the detail you need.
www.rte.ie
Brexit talks: Last-minute agony over fish and state aid
At some point between the Boris Johnson-Ursula von der Leyen dinner on 9 December, and last Sunday morning, something changed.
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
He can't just walk away from a deal because there aren't enough Tories that would accept that politically and all those swing voters would feel let down for a long time. His election promise was 'Get Brexit done.' He has to deliver, voters won't forgive him. Let's not forget that masses of issues had already been agreed and that things are setup to run relatively smoothly in '21 if a deal is signed.
I do hear myself echoing BJ with his 'Fuck Business' quote but with 'Fuck Fish,'
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