The Ashes 2009
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I read some coverage suggesting he'll probably drop down the order. Just as well considering his frailty; if England had bowled at him a little better early in his innings, the inevitable lbws would have come well before he reached 50.
Obviously he's not going to do it every time. But atm, he's doing it frequently enough to make him worth a punt.
This. Best England lower order I can remember in a long time, and thank goodness considering the middle order.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Not in my opinion. Sadly as I've championed him in the past. He's out of form and I'm afraid that Collingwood is only test-class when he's at the very top of his form.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
anderson can hit a few (no ducks for 54 innings - better than any of the specialists) harmy has an average of 131 at the Oval
but srsly, Swann and Broad seem ok at bat
paulhackett
voiced by strother martin
Of the top 6, Strauss, Trott, KP and Prior would be in, if fit, for the next test. I imagine Broad will be asked to bat 7 from now on? Cook must know he needs to sort his off stump out, but in the absence of anyone better probably has the series against SA to make runs? Not sure if KP as the best batsman should go in at 3 or play an opener such as Key or bring back Bopara at 5..
If a player is unlikely to be around for the next Ashes series, they should be thanked but sidelined now.. even if the worst comes to the worst, you would still have experienced test players in reserve, so I would drop Colly and Harmy now, maybe Swann, assuming Rashid will soon be ready and need games.
If a player is unlikely to be around for the next Ashes series, they should be thanked but sidelined now.. even if the worst comes to the worst, you would still have experienced test players in reserve, so I would drop Colly and Harmy now, maybe Swann, assuming Rashid will soon be ready and need games.
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Harmy should have been left out a long time ago. as for dropping other players who are unlikely to be around for the next ashes series...
a) it's only 18 months away, i doubt there are any members of the team bar flintoff who aren't confident of being around for that one
b) the ashes may well be the series we all want to win, but it's not the sodding world cup of test cricket. if we want to be the top test nation in the world we need to be picking a team to win every series, not constantly looking forward to the next ashes.
a) it's only 18 months away, i doubt there are any members of the team bar flintoff who aren't confident of being around for that one
b) the ashes may well be the series we all want to win, but it's not the sodding world cup of test cricket. if we want to be the top test nation in the world we need to be picking a team to win every series, not constantly looking forward to the next ashes.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Agreed. Next up SA in SA – on paper the hardest series of all. The very best team must be picked to play in it.
As for Harmison, he bowled well at the Oval. If he wants to go to SA, he should go really. I can't think of a good reason to drop him, especially as he's the only bowler of his type England have.
Dirty Martini
gets what he cant want
Who are the proper bouncy quicks waiting in the wings? I really should pay more attention to county cricket.
Saj! When he gets his radar right anyway.
Dirty Martini
gets what he cant want
Yes. Is he still spraying it around?
I think so. He must be or he would've been in the frame for the ashes...
He's as menacing as harmy when he's on song. Shame he can't sort out his accuracy.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
he looks campest in that picture?
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
He wasn't out though, was he.
Dirty Martini
gets what he cant want
yeh he was. lb.
He was. Just lb rather than caught.
liquidlunch
fargonebeauty
Thats twice he has lost the series thou that cuntapunta.He will make sure he wins the bastards back in 18 months
I would say that england should stick with Onions,Broad,Swann and Anderson as your main attack with Strauss,Cook,K.P,Trott,Ravi,Prior and a good young all rounder.To my independant eye anyway
I would say that england should stick with Onions,Broad,Swann and Anderson as your main attack with Strauss,Cook,K.P,Trott,Ravi,Prior and a good young all rounder.To my independant eye anyway
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
oh okay. The it is pretty amusing.
I especially like Anderson peeking around the corner, and Freddie on a wind up.
The umps got every decision wrong in that innings. Shocker.
I hated the referral system when they trialled it in NZ two summers ago but if it was in operation during this series Iwouldn't have pics of a gloating strauss on the front of my newspaper yesterday...
holteman
( . Y . )
we have unearthed some future stars in this series...
with strauss batting as good as ever. and players like trott, broad, swann all coming through and improving, and anderson finally living up to his potential with the ball. and if KP gets fit and hits form again..
we really could be a force to reckon with for years to come...
and my god am i going to enjoy winding the aussies up in december
with strauss batting as good as ever. and players like trott, broad, swann all coming through and improving, and anderson finally living up to his potential with the ball. and if KP gets fit and hits form again..
we really could be a force to reckon with for years to come...
and my god am i going to enjoy winding the aussies up in december
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
How many England players got rough decisions too, though? Over the series, neither side had the edge in rubbish umpiring decisions. The number of England batsmen given out to no-balls was shocking.
For instance, at the Oval, Aus suffered two bad mistakes – one, North, potentially important, the other, Clark, probably not important. England suffered three wickets to no-balls, one a huge no-ball, and all to front-line batsmen.
paulhackett
voiced by strother martin
It's a fallacy to say umpiring changed the result - it assumes each batsman given out (incorrectly or otherwise) will carry on and make lots of runs rather than being clean bowled the next delivery (or triggered again for another spurious reason)..
If I recall, the last 'poor' decision went against the winning side, when the lbw against Watsons was given 'not out'..
If I recall, the last 'poor' decision went against the winning side, when the lbw against Watsons was given 'not out'..
That innings was a particular shocker though. Their entire top order was given out to dodgy decisions. If they'd got it right I honestly don't think it would've come down to the last test.
liquidlunch
fargonebeauty
Out in October:
we will see what the cover says in 18 months lol
'The Ashes Series 2010-11' presumably.
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the ashes series 2010-11?
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
summer in oz is our winter innit, I think they have a test that starts on Boxing day
