The Ashes 2009

[littlebabyjesus]

Just read what Hayden said about Boycott. Out of order imo.

From the little I've heard of him, Hayden sounds like an utter cunt, banging on about the players' responsibilities to the sponsors.

Money-grabbing corporate arse-licking wanker.

And he referred to himself in the third person.

 

[mattie]

Just read what Hayden said about Boycott. Out of order imo.

From the little I've heard of him, Hayden sounds like an utter cunt, banging on about the players' responsibilities to the sponsors.

Money-grabbing corporate arse-licking wanker.

He's always come across as deeply objectionable.

 

[SpookyFrank]

How the fuck did they drag themselves to 250?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Just read what Hayden said about Boycott. Out of order imo.

What did he say?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What did he say?

That Boycott's batting style emptied stadiums. (Said to Boycott.)

 

[tangerinedream]

That guys talking bollocks, TMS is as great as it's always been in my opinion... Seems his main gripe is that one of his 'Guardian' compadres lost his job. hmmm

I don't get this 'tuffers is 5live' thing - I think he's great, he's knowledgeable, humourous and entertaining. I certainly don't dislike any of the commentators, I esp love Blowers for what it's worth. You can't compare the Sky and TMS commentary - they are different beasts, different mediums, but I don't agree at all that TMS is ailing or has been dumbed down. About the only major difference I can think of is I don't recall CMJ's book review for a while and some of the summarisers have changed. The core team seems a bit bigger as well, so you get a bit more rotation of guests and commentators. That makes sense because the coverage has expanded since I started listening in the days of Radio 4lw alone, when there wasn't even a Radio 5 to do 15 minute reports on, or podcasts or 606 cricket shows etc.

But then, we can't have Firey Fred, Trevor Bailey and John Arlott for ever can we? I never was a big Fred Trueman fan anyway...

I miss Selvey too though. I didn't realise he'd been asked to step down, I thought he'd come to that decision himself. Still, to say the show 'dreadfully misses him' - well, he only did half hour stints in certain tests, so I think that's hyperbole.

Like one of the commentors on the blog mentioned - there definately was a cold feel between gus fraser and blowers in the last match - anyone else notice that. I think it started when blowers talked about Middlesex giving Hughes games at the beginning of the season.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Truman was a complete 'not in my day' arse. Selvey was good, but Tuffers has been a bit of a revelation, I think. And Vic Marks is still there.

Get rid of Hayden, though, the tosser.

 

[tangerinedream]

He's always come across as deeply objectionable.

I don't like very much him so far, he speaks about himself in the third person half the time...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I don't like very much him so far, he speaks about himself in the third person half the time...

A surefire sign of an up-your-own-arse wanker.

I can't see him and Tuffers getting on.

 

[tangerinedream]

That Boycott's batting style emptied stadiums. (Said to Boycott.)

I missed this, I thought I listened to all of TMS, only missed a bit when they came back on after going off air.

I presume it wasn't said in jest, I mean, Boycs is always telling Aggers he couldn't bowl.

Actually, where is boycs today, have I missed him?

 

[belboid]

That Boycott's batting style emptied stadiums. (Said to Boycott.)

so you can't exactly fault him for being wrong.

Listening to TMS now, and the non-cricket nonsense chat isnt as good as it used to be

 

[tangerinedream]

A surefire sign of an up-your-own-arse wanker.

I can't see him and Tuffers getting on.

Yeah...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Actually, where is boycs today, have I missed him?

He walked out when Hayden insulted him. I didn't hear it live on air, just read it reported on cricinfo.

 

[tangerinedream]

so you can't exactly fault him for being wrong.

Listening to TMS now, and the non-cricket nonsense chat isnt as good as it used to be

It can be...

Tuffers and Aggers discussing the Queens dinner was 20 mins of genius at Lords.

 

[waterloowelshy]

a win for Hayden! http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2009/jul/31/test-match-special-boycott-hayden

Thank you very much. Id have thought that Boycott would have been able to take a bit of stick, given that he is very forthright in letting people know when he thinks they are rubbish. Smacks a bit of not being able to take criticism when you dish it out on a regular basis. And lets be fair he was a very boring batsman - i dont think I'd have stayed to watch him for too long.

I think TMS is as good as ever. Sour grapes from the Guardian IMO too.

 

[tangerinedream]

He walked out when Hayden insulted him. I didn't hear it live on air, just read it reported on cricinfo.

Blimey...

 

[DaRealSpoon]

This is the first test that I've watched live on Sky rather than listening to TMS and I have to say I don't half miss TMS. Yeh, it's nice to be able to see the action etc, but it doesn't have the character of TMS. No laughs to be found anywhere... Is there many a more boring man than Nasser Hussain??

Perhaps I see TMS through misty eyes, it's a national institution. One that I've grown up listening to in the Spoon household.


E2A - Boycs can fuck off though, I've had enough of his shit now. If you can't fuckin take it then don't dish it out you cantankerous, arrogant penarse!!

 

[kabbes]

Meanwhile, back in cricketworld, this last wicket partnership is being annoyingly stubborn.

 

[tangerinedream]

C'mon, lets have this last wicket...

Hayden just said "I quite enjoy sarcastic humour" with a pointed laugh... as they discussed singing in the crowd...

 

[Nemo]

Meanwhile, back in cricketworld, this last wicket partnership is being annoyingly stubborn.

Might help if the bowlers aimed at the stumps for an over or two, rather than relying on tailenders to be good enough to edge the swinging ball.

 

[tangerinedream]

This is the first test that I've watched live on Sky rather than listening to TMS and I have to say I don't half miss TMS. Yeh, it's nice to be able to see the action etc, but it doesn't have the character of TMS. No laughs to be found anywhere... Is there many a more boring man than Nasser Hussain??

Perhaps I see TMS through misty eyes, it's a national institution. One that I've grown up listening to in the Spoon household.

Turn the sound down, turn the radio on?

 

[tangerinedream]

Well, just as CMJ said it, about to post - Get swann on...

Ah, here's Sir Geoffrey

 

[Nemo]

Turn the sound down, turn the radio on?

They probably aren't on exactly the same timing.

 

[belboid]

Actually, where is boycs today, have I missed him?

he's in now. And moaning, just for a change

 

[tangerinedream]

They probably aren't on exactly the same time.

No, true... Though with the choice of different feeds, from r4, the interactive scorecard, digital radio and the audio only internet feed you could maybe get a decent match...

I had all of them running in my house for a short time the other day in different rooms and it was wierdly echoey...

 

[Nemo]

he's in now. And moaning, just for a change

How uncharacteristic.

 

[DaRealSpoon]

They probably aren't on exactly the same timing.

^^This... Believe me I've tried. It just doesnay sync up

 

[tangerinedream]

How uncharacteristic.

He's moaning about Broad tbf...

 

[tangerinedream]

^^This... Believe me I've tried. It just doesnay sync up

That alone is an argument for having it on terrestrial telly.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Thank you very much. Id have thought that Boycott would have been able to take a bit of stick, given that he is very forthright in letting people know when he thinks they are rubbish. Smacks a bit of not being able to take criticism when you dish it out on a regular basis. And lets be fair he was a very boring batsman - i dont think I'd have stayed to watch him for too long.

Here's cricinfo's assessment:

As opener he saw his first task as scoring heavily enough to protect his teams against defeat, and in Test cricket and the County Championship - the matches that counted in the first-class averages - he was as sparing with the attacking strokes as, in retirement, he is strident in his opinions on the game. How valuable he was to England is shown by the fact that only 20 of his 108 Tests ended in defeat, mainly when he failed.

A bit like a superior version of Mike Atherton, then. And remember he played in the era of Lillee, Thomson, Hadlee, Roberts, Holding, et al. His top score in tests wasn't made battering a substandard Zimbabwe team.

Hayden's comments were ignorant nonsense.