the all new 2005 who's taking a trip to holloway thread

[absinthe]

....... and to make matters worse, we stopped off on the way home for a couple of cheap G&Ts in our local....... Wetherspoons.

corpor8 cock-suckr!!

 

[max_freakout]

the police overeacted to a situation that wasnt even happening when they turned up

Did the anarchists overreact to the police presence at all?

 

[General Ludd]

although if it did maybe they'd just be expressing the right to free expression in a public space

If your 'free expression' inconviences alot of other people then you have no right to it at all.

 

[smokedout]

hard to say, i didnt see the arrest which kicked it all off, but the cops were well over the top

 

[Top Dog]

"oh yeah the wetherspoons empire shuddered at the prospect of half a dozen naughty kids playing some music in one of their establishments... "

just like tescos did on mayday, or the arms indistry did after dsei

i agree it was a bit naughty, but mostly harmless, but it must be great having the confidence to judge what is and isnt an action and what it and isnt justified

come on then Bakhtin, perhaps you can run me through the carnivalesque qualities of this particular form of political action??? Im afraid that, bar half a dozen people in the pub, and you on this thread... no one else appears to have 'got it'

but dont dare challenge corporate power when they sell cheap beer

If you were drinking in the pub and have the bare face cheek to make that your argument then you are one deluded kid

 

[Thora_v1]

Yeah, the "sound system"/Argos CD player was all a bit silly - but I think people would have just left without trouble if police hadn't kicked off. I think the first police that arrived were really confused as to who we were, and thought they were dealing with people from the football match. One cop told me we had "football hooligans in amongst us" - think they might have been refering to Pickman's . Apparently by the time they interviewed people at the police station they were describing it was an attempted rave (!).

Some people did get a bit of a kicking in the police vans, and some had their clothes confiscated as evidence Did get a stylish police-issue tracksuit and a pair of daps to go home in though, so every cloud...

 

[absinthe]

hard to say, i didnt see the arrest which kicked it all off, but the cops were well over the top

I take it this is the first time you've been out down the high street at kicking-out time of a Saturday night?

 

[In Bloom]

but it didnt happen in hyde park did it

although if it did maybe they'd just be expressing the right to free expression in a public space

bit like reclaim the streets, or a squat party perhaps

the police overeacted to a situation that wasnt even happening when they turned up

one copper said to me we're only here cos you caused trouble, when i told him what had happened (someone turned on a ghetto blaster in a pub for 5 minutes), all he could reply with is well youre causing trouble now

Any chance of a reply, btw?

The pub couldn't serve because those nobheads (whom I would bet good money you were among) wouldn't turn their stupid fucking stereo off. You knew this would happen, you knew it would ruin everybody's night and you knew the police would be called.

 

[Top Dog]

One cop told me we had "football hooligans in amongst us" - think they might have been refering to Pickman's.

hahaha

pickmans, where you gonna be drinking before the 'big one' this saturday...?

... just so i can keep a safe distance for myself, like

 

[Chuck Wilson]

This is marvellous. So what we really had was high level political action on a legitimate target within corporate buisiness, which translates to some gormless cunts inflicting their personal choice of music on punters in a pub by bringing in a midi system. Priceless I couldn't have made this up for the next installment of the Revolution Betrayed. Many thanks.

 

[rednblack]

But is it possible/credible to maintain an interest in anarchism if i have NO desire to get truncheoned over something like a soundsystem in a pub?

most definately - the vast majority of anarchists at the bookfair, expecially the class struggle contingent had nothing to do with either row

 

[knopf]

Last year: some cock does Mayday graf.
This year: some cock turns up at Wetherspoons with a stereo.

Any predictions for next year?

 

[rednblack]

Last year: some cock does Mayday graf.
This year: some cock turns up at Wetherspoons with a stereo.

Any predictions for next year?

some cock turns up and writes 'you can't smash soundsystems' on the antifa stall

 

[gurrier]

the police overeacted to a situation that wasnt even happening when they turned up

That's what the police do.

Making a lot of noise and disturbing others in the pub without caring whether they want to listen to your noise is not a particularly political act, nor is it unusual. It's fairly typical lout behaviour and it's a nuisance. That's the tradition that you were acting in - fuck everybody else, I want to listen to my music. Not something to be proud of.

But, by the sounds of it the whole thing really is a storm in a teacup. Any body got any comments on the content of the bootsale?

 

[knopf]

some cock turns up and writes 'you can't smash soundsystems' on the antifa stall

 

[smokedout]

yes im sure it was a conspiracy to ruin everyones night

the pub and the police are responsible for their overeaction to the situation, when they stopped serving beer the folk with the stereo played for about 2 minutes and then left, you would have thought an experienced landlord could have dealt with a bunch of completely non-violent people turning on a radio in his pub without calling the cops

and as ive said this whole thing happened before the cops turned up, the people with the soundsystem had left voluntarily

 

[charlie mowbray]

That's what the police do.

Making a lot of noise and disturbing others in the pub without caring whether they want to listen to your noise is not a particularly political act, nor is it unusual. It's fairly typical lout behaviour and it's a nuisance. That's the tradition that you were acting in - fuck everybody else, I want to listen to my music. Not something to be proud of.

But, by the sounds of it the whole thing really is a storm in a teacup. Any body got any comments on the content of the bootsale?

Yes, can we have some comments on the meetings, stalls etc. rather than this boring shite.

 

[absinthe]

What radio station did you put on?

Was it for 2 or 5 minutes now?

 

[gawkrodger]

i heard that Mahkno meeting was a load of shite. Apparently there was some old duffer rabbiting on in it

 

[Top Dog]

some cock turns up and writes 'you can't smash soundsystems' on the antifa stall

Plagiarist! you've pulled that quote directly from the nihilist manifesto havent you? fess up RnB...

 

[In Bloom]

That's what the police do.

Making a lot of noise and disturbing others in the pub without caring whether they want to listen to your noise is not a particularly political act, nor is it unusual. It's fairly typical lout behaviour and it's a nuisance. That's the tradition that you were acting in - fuck everybody else, I want to listen to my music. Not something to be proud of.

But, by the sounds of it the whole thing really is a storm in a teacup. Any body got any comments on the content of the bootsale?

Yeah, I can't believe David fucking Shayler showed up and was allowed to hold a meeting

What's next, Sir Iain Blair gives his thoughts on how to deal with crime in an anarchist society?

 

[charlie mowbray]

To GawkRodger:
You'll be getting a clip round the ear'ole if you carry on like that, young fellowme lad!!

 

[knopf]

the people with the soundsystem had left voluntarily

.... or to put it another way, had fucked off and left everyone else to take shit from the cops.

Well done. Well done indeed.

 

[montevideo]

some cock turns up and writes 'you can't smash soundsystems' on the antifa stall

there'll be an antifa next year!?



Ps noticed a few of our yorkshire comrades being a lot less reticent outside the pub.

 

[Pickman's model]

Last year: some cock does Mayday graf.
This year: some cock turns up at Wetherspoons with a stereo.

Any predictions for next year?

money will have been abolished?

 

[Wilf]

Last year: some cock does Mayday graf.
This year: some cock turns up at Wetherspoons with a stereo.

Any predictions for next year?

Yep, that we get un-invited by the London Voluntary Sector Resource Centre

But, yes, Bootsale itself was great. Big thanks to the organisers

 

[montevideo]

To GawkRodger:
You'll be getting a clip round the ear'ole if you carry on like that, young fellowme lad!!

or an expulsion letter

 

[In Bloom]

or an expulsion letter

Do tell, can you name one person who has ever been expelled from the AF?

 

[montevideo]

Do tell, can you name one person who has ever been expelled from the AF?

there's still some bitter acfers out there> never forgive, never forget.

 

[Pickman's model]

hahaha

pickmans, where you gonna be drinking before the 'big one' this saturday...?

... just so i can keep a safe distance for myself, like

in the swan, as usual. or the plough.