the all new 2005 who's taking a trip to holloway thread

[past caring]

Just catching up with this thread....

I always preferred the Bobbsey twins.

Is that a Spart fiddling with the lad's shorts?

 

[Pickman's model]

cheers! you're round again...

carry on, td!

it's ok, it's td's card behind the bar!

 

[rednblack]

anyone watch macintyre on the 6.57 crew last night? funny as fuck

 

[Top Dog]

carry on, td!

it's ok, it's td's card behind the bar!

 

[Blagsta]

So where's the meet then?

 

[Wilf]

how did all that thing outside the coronet end up? Give or take a car windscreen seemed mainly handbags when i left.

 

[scumbalina]

how did all that thing outside the coronet end up? Give or take a car windscreen seemed mainly handbags when i left.

I didn't make it this year, but have heard there was shenanigans - I put it down to the U75 meet up.

 

[Blagsta]

Who got nicked then? I heard there was a bit of a ruck.

 

[rednblack]

i think there were four arrests, no urbanites though

 

[Epicurus]

I went to this yesterday and while I don’t want to piss on someone else’s parade I have to say I was very disappointed on a number of levels.

Is this a major event in the Anarchist calendar?

Was it seen as a success?

 

[Pickman's model]

i think there were four arrests, no urbanites though

don't fuss, there's always next year.

 

[catch]

I went to this yesterday and while I don’t want to piss on someone else’s parade I have to say I was very disappointed on a number of levels.

Is this a major event in the Anarchist calendar?

Was it seen as a success?

I'm not involved in organising it, and I have a number of problems with it as well - for me it's mainly a chance to meet up with people, and get some good pamphlets and books. I met up with some good people, and bought lots of pamphlets and books, so it was good for me.

What disappointed you on a number of levels?

 

[max_freakout]

i think there were four arrests, no urbanites though

Didnt count the arrests but i saw EXACTLY what happened, someone from coronet called the police(because some anarchos brought a soundsystem into coronet ), they came down innocently enough to sort it out(2 police cars), and it all jumped off when one copper asked someone 'can i have a word with you' then people started shouting 'no!', then in a blink of an eye, the coppers had their truncheons out, and very soon there were about 20-30 cop cars and a few vans, coppers with riot shields outside coronet etc etc, i got some GREAT footage on my camera-phone

 

[catch]

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/10/326252.html
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/10/326267.html

Best thing about Wetherspoons is you don't have to listen to shit music whilst you're drinking your pint

 

[gurrier]

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/10/326252.html
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/10/326267.html

Best thing about Wetherspoons is you don't have to listen to shit music whilst you're drinking your pint

For fuck's sake, that's pretty fucking embarrassing. Thousands of anarchists fail to sort out a small bunch of anti-social fuckwits and the predictable ensues. One of the things that always amazed me about the uk anarchist scene is that there appears to be infinite tolerance of drunken anti-social fuckwittery.

 

[General Ludd]

They were sorted out - the sound system was disabled by some of the antifa lads after the crusties refused to turn the damn thing off.

The police had already been called by then though so there wasn't much way to avoid the predictable scuffles.

 

[gurrier]

They were sorted out - the sound system was disabled by some of the antifa lads after the crusties refused to turn the damn thing off.

The police had already been called by then though so there wasn't much way to avoid the predictable scuffles.

Fair enough, I'm just going on what's up at indymedia. Still there has to be a way to avoid walking into such predictable and pointless situations.

 

[gurrier]

Leaving the embarrassing stuff aside, any feedback on the bootsale itself? Numbers, meetings, anarchist assembly, that sort of thing?

 

[montevideo]

For fuck's sake, that's pretty fucking embarrassing. Thousands of anarchists fail to sort out a small bunch of anti-social fuckwits and the predictable ensues. One of the things that always amazed me about the uk anarchist scene is that there appears to be infinite tolerance of drunken anti-social fuckwittery.

you're absolutely right. A thousand anarchists couldn't get the better of 6 coppers who had dragged someone to the ground had him pinned & were giving him a good kicking. Presumbly the anti-socials you talk of are the ones who didn't lift a finger when people were getting hit by the police?

The english anarchists excel themselves in their indifference. As ever.

 

[General Ludd]

Presumbly the anti-socials you talk of are the ones who didn't lift a finger when people were getting hit by the police?

No. I was talking about the fuckwits with the sound system.

 

[gurrier]

you're absolutely right. A thousand anarchists couldn't get the better of 6 coppers who had dragged someone to the ground had him pinned & were giving him a good kicking. Presumbly the anti-socials you talk of are the ones who didn't lift a finger when people were getting hit by the police?

The english anarchists excel themselves in their indifference. As ever.

I suppose I should wait until I hear more about it, but from the various internet reports I've seen, it sounds like the dudes with the sound system were acting in a seriously fuckwitted way. I'm not defending anything the police did, but allowing such predictable, pointless and counter-productive situations to arise is a problem. I mean bringing a sound system into a pub is a certain way to percipitate a pointless confrontation with the filth. It's obnoxious, anti-social and more than anything else, it's fucking stupid and irresponsible. If you're going to do such things which fuck things up for everybody else, you should be told where to go in no uncertain terms.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

you're absolutely right. A thousand anarchists couldn't get the better of 6 coppers who had dragged someone to the ground had him pinned & were giving him a good kicking. Presumbly the anti-socials you talk of are the ones who didn't lift a finger when people were getting hit by the police?

The english anarchists excel themselves in their indifference. As ever.

 

[catch]

Presumbly the anti-socials you talk of are the ones who didn't lift a finger when people were getting hit by the police?

What about the ones putting their kids at risk by running up to the police with them to provoke them? Fucking stupid.

 

[montevideo]

update: 7 people got nicked that is known of. They are still being held (they will probably be refused bail & appear at highbury magistrates court monday morning). They are looking to charge them with violent disorder. Not sure what everyone was arrested for but at least 2 were for affray (one down from violent disorder, so they're taking it seriously hiking up the charges).

One got nicked for asking why they were nicking someone else & another from indymedia for taking photo's of coppers hitting people.

 

[montevideo]

I suppose I should wait until I hear more about it, but from the various internet reports I've seen, it sounds like the dudes with the sound system were acting in a seriously fuckwitted way. I'm not defending anything the police did, but allowing such predictable, pointless and counter-productive situations to arise is a problem. I mean bringing a sound system into a pub is a certain way to percipitate a pointless confrontation with the filth. It's obnoxious, anti-social and more than anything else, it's fucking stupid and irresponsible. If you're going to do such things which fuck things up for everybody else, you should be told where to go in no uncertain terms.

the dudes with the soundsystem were selfish & arrogant halfwits. The guy from 635 group handled it badly (although i understood his frustration). I'm talking about what went on outside. Doesn't matter who caused what and for what reason but when you see a handful of copers kicking the shit out of one person on the floor who have 2 choices.

 

[cats hammers]

The guy from 635 group handled it badly

By not smashing in the sound system much earlier, you mean?

 

[Pickman's model]

i missed the initial scuffle, but from what i've been told, the six plod were sergeantless and therefore unable to think for themselves. i saw them looking gormless outside the coronet, but was called away for a few minutes. when i returned, the filth (presumably level ii riot-trained, with short shields) were out and the cops started pushing people n and s. questioning their actions resulted in increased aggression. i overheard one cop telling a woman that the reason they were clearing the area like that was two cops had been stabbed. be that as it may, the initial incident in the coronet was hardly major.

every year there's some little incident for which it's recalled in later years. sometimes it's people getting pissed up and fighting each other, sometimes it's a bit of graffiti, sometimes it's the arsery of the bouncers. yesterday, a little fuckwittery spiralled into something interesting but nasty at the same time. i don't know if anyone involved in the initial incident - the sound system bit - was arrested: but if they weren't, i hope they spare a thought for the seven people in cells tonight.

 

[Pickman's model]

you're absolutely right. A thousand anarchists couldn't get the better of 6 coppers who had dragged someone to the ground had him pinned & were giving him a good kicking. Presumbly the anti-socials you talk of are the ones who didn't lift a finger when people were getting hit by the police?

The english anarchists excel themselves in their indifference. As ever.

although, as i've said, i missed the initial bit outside the coronet, i'm led to believe by someone who didn't that one of the plod ended up in tears and that a full and frank discussion was had. perhaps that cop was singularly easy to upset?

 

[Pickman's model]

By not smashing in the sound system much earlier, you mean?

it bloody should have been. i was astonished at the complaisant attitude of many of the people in the coronet - in many other pubs the sound system would have survived for far less time.

 

[blamblam]

you're absolutely right. A thousand anarchists couldn't get the better of 6 coppers who had dragged someone to the ground had him pinned & were giving him a good kicking. Presumbly the anti-socials you talk of are the ones who didn't lift a finger when people were getting hit by the police?

The english anarchists excel themselves in their indifference. As ever.

Lol yeah that was *exactly* the problem with what happened last night.

Bringing a sound system into a Wetherspoons. I think that even surpasses the moron who wrote "you can't cancel Mayday" in the bookfair venue last year. And by quite a long shot, actually.