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The 2020 Urban 6 Nations Thread

The 6 Nations is a better tournament when France are good.

England were poor. Two pieces of brilliance from May was all that saved us from a whitewash.

Has anyone got any stats for how often the relentless rucking/mauling/driving within a couple of yards of the try line actually works?
 
I have to say I loved the magnificent French ineptitude at the end that handed England the LBP. They're always good for a brainfart even when they're on the up.

French setpiece was surprisingly dogshit. Strange to see a side win when their lineout and scrum were so consistently and comprehensively dismantled.

Defence was excellent, though. Smashing ball carriers back in the tackle, double high/low hits, judo turning the tackled player to allow the jackal, quick resetting and good linespeed - we're going to miss Edwards.
 
Yep, it was the defence that really made it, Edwards has done an amazing job in a pretty short time.
 
mx wcfc said:
Has anyone got any stats for how often the relentless rucking/mauling/driving within a couple of yards of the try line actually works?
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It works plenty, but it relies on quick ball and sucking in defenders and creating an overlap WHICH YOU THEN HAVE TO ACTUALLY FUCKING USE.

We were too slow most of the time and then when - somehow - we did have a massive overlap we ignored it.

Add that to my list above.
 
that was not pretty. Surprise, surprise, play people out of position, they don't do well!

If i've said it once, I've said it a thousand times, can we please hurry up and bin Youngs.

Some great play by the French but they'll struggle against the Welsh (and maybe Irish) if they don't improve their set peice. I'd like them to win the whole thing as I put a fiver on them when they were 9/1. Off the first weekend I think my money may be on the welsh.

Best game of the weekend was the women France vs England game
 
But yeah, amazes me that with all the depth of talent in England you haven't been able to find anyone better than Youngs in what feels like a decade or so.
 
bendeus said:
But yeah, amazes me that with all the depth of talent in England you haven't been able to find anyone better than Youngs in what feels like a decade or so.
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considering the depth we have in so many other positions, it does come as surprise.

Given how consistently shite he's been, I'm still surprised the likes of Spencer and Robson haven't been given chances to be brought through and developat test level. It's not like Youngs will be around for the next WC
 
Think we are seeing the effects of an academy system that emphasises the physical and skills development, neglecting decision making. This leaves the players unable to adapt when things aren't going their way. Overcoached into systems of play from an early stage up to premiership level makes them over reliant on it. When the system doesn't work they cant change .
 
Did Kruis ensure he starts alongside Itoje when he came on? The pack seemed to improve a lot, and I know he calls the line-outs.
 
Not very stout yeoman Youngs dropped for Eng.

Celtic legend, Ap Tomcyns, starts for Wales.
 
Makes you a better side than last week. I can't see us beating Wales tomorrow. While there was some good stuff in attack last week, Ringrose and Aki in making yards there were there things which were really poor. The first if you are to beat Wales you need to whip that ball away quickly. Murray isn't doing that nor is he bringing any plays off 9 which he was successful at doing in 2018. The second out maul has gone backwards, under Plumtree it was supreme under Easterby it has regressed to the point we don't seem to have the confidence to kick to the corner and maul. Lastly Larmour is doing a Kearney impression rather than being Larmour, making yards but into bodies.

So predictions
Ireland 14 Wales 23
Scotland 10 England 20
France to beat italy.
 
bendeus said:
Not very stout yeoman Youngs dropped for Eng.
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Not sure that starting with Heinz is an improvement. From all I've seen of him in an England shirt he's slow as treacle and telegraphs everything. Here's hoping he surprises me.
 
fucthest8 said:
Not sure that starting with Heinz is an improvement. From all I've seen of him in an England shirt he's slow as treacle and telegraphs everything. Here's hoping he surprises me.
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No, you guys have some major problems at 9. Weird thing is, you've had them for the best part of 17 years: most of the incumbents and the pretenders to their crowns have been solid at best, hence Youngs' lengthy career in a white shirt.
 
flypanam said:
Makes you a better side than last week. I can't see us beating Wales tomorrow. While there was some good stuff in attack last week, Ringrose and Aki in making yards there were there things which were really poor. The first if you are to beat Wales you need to whip that ball away quickly. Murray isn't doing that nor is he bringing any plays off 9 which he was successful at doing in 2018. The second out maul has gone backwards, under Plumtree it was supreme under Easterby it has regressed to the point we don't seem to have the confidence to kick to the corner and maul. Lastly Larmour is doing a Kearney impression rather than being Larmour, making yards but into bodies.

So predictions
Ireland 14 Wales 23
Scotland 10 England 20
France to beat italy.
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Hmmm. Given the weather forecast I wouldn't imagine the back lines will be doing anything fancy anyway. It'll be won up front: advantage Wales in the backrow, advantage Ireland in the tight 5. I think it'll be closer than you predict but I do fancy us to nick it.

Mind you, home advantage and all that - it rarely sees reverses among the better sides.
 
bendeus said:
Hmmm. Given the weather forecast I wouldn't imagine the back lines will be doing anything fancy anyway. It'll be won up front: advantage Wales in the backrow, advantage Ireland in the tight 5. I think it'll be closer than you predict but I do fancy us to nick it.

Mind you, home advantage and all that - it rarely sees reverses among the better sides.
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Yeah I heard it was going to be a gale and heavy rain, puts more emphasis on the maul up close. Your backrow plus AWJ are good defending a maul. Don't get me wrong I would love us to beat Wales, just can't see it tomorrow...
 
Wale/Ireland may come down to injuries (unfortunately), too tight to call I reckon.

Glad to see Youngs off, we'll see how Beanz goes starting now. Scotland love to spoil a party so it will be a tough game up there. Not confident tbh.
 
Smangus said:
Wale/Ireland may come down to injuries (unfortunately), too tight to call I reckon.

Glad to see Youngs off, we'll see how Beanz goes starting now. Scotland love to spoil a party so it will be a tough game up there. Not confident tbh.
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If they play with the aggression of last week and if their loosehead can get away with boring in then England may struggle.
 
flypanam said:
Didn't Ireland and wales go through a period of winning away in this fixture during the late 90's early 2000?
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Yes, I think you're right. Think results in the tournament are becoming more and more home-centric these days, though.
 
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