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revol68 said:
for being facist lil f*****s, for informing on union members, for teaching ignorance for thousands of years, let the f*****s die sure won't they go to heaven?

And this comment proves quite adequately why anarchism is far from the freedom from totalitarianism we all are so desperate to believe can be overthrown - anarchism is sadly just another form of totalitarianism.
 
pidgeonhead said:
And this comment proves quite adequately why anarchism is far from the freedom from totalitarianism we all are so desperate to believe can be overthrown - anarchism is sadly just another form of totalitarianism.
where's this totalitarianism you claim to oppose?
 
pidgeonhead said:
Are you mad? You're just a little kid, though I'm intrigued by your "Catholic Worker muppet" thing... were you talking to someone else?

I have a feeling you're just another public schoolboy playing with political symbols... prove me wrong, give me your own opinions on religion.
Indeed squire. I shall waste no more of your time :)

My opinion? if you want to believe in something you can. If you hurt people whilst doing it you cant. If your institution recruits and takes peoples money from them, then you will be dealt with by Anarchist Law no. 23 b, and i shall call the Anarchist Police to send you to Anarchist Jail.
 
Pickman's model said:
how?

my preference is usually for the wheel. but with such a large number it would have taken too long. do we hang 'em or do we shoot 'em - that's usually the question. or the knife. iirc the locals came down on the side of shooting in many cases, which is by no means perfect but it does the job.

So who gets to kill the religious members of your family?

Your parents, or your friends parents?

Not forgetting the infrastructure in the third world that aid organisations and development agencies linked to the church use to deliver much needed resources.

Haven't thought this through, this "wipe out all religion" lark, have you mate?
 
pidgeonhead said:
And this comment proves quite adequately why anarchism is far from the freedom from totalitarianism we all are so desperate to believe can be overthrown - anarchism is sadly just another form of totalitarianism.

lol, you clearly know dick all about the history of Spain. Most of the people who killed priests and rightists in the early days of the Spanish revolution were ordinary peasants fed up of being forced to pay for a bloated religious class.

Anarchists, in fact, were often found trying to argue against the killings. :rolleyes:
 
Taxamo Welf said:
Indeed squire. I shall waste no more of your time :)

My opinion? if you want to believe in something you can. If you hurt people whilst doing it you cant. If your institution recruits and takes peoples money from them, then you will be dealt with by Anarchist Law no. 23 b, and i shall call the Anarchist Police to send you to Anarchist Jail.

failing that ill send in my deaths head chaos punks
 
this never works but i'll try anyway:

A poster here is clearly misinformed. They are not listening. We are wasting our time. Its sad that we bother. Can we stop now?
 
pidgeonhead said:
So who gets to kill the religious members of your family?

Your parents, or your friends parents?

Not forgetting the infrastructure in the third world that aid organisations and development agencies linked to the church use to deliver much needed resources.

Haven't thought this through, this "wipe out all religion" lark, have you mate?

He's clearly a lot more thoughtful than yourself, who is apparently incapable of noticing the difference between attacking the catholic church as an organisation overtly supporting fascism, and the mass eradication of religious people and beliefs.
 
Taxamo Welf said:
Indeed squire. I shall waste no more of your time :)

My opinion? if you want to believe in something you can. If you hurt people whilst doing it you cant. If your institution recruits and takes peoples money from them, then you will be dealt with by Anarchist Law no. 23 b, and i shall call the Anarchist Police to send you to Anarchist Jail.

And your anarchist institution will be taking land and property from what it sees as the upper classes, and almost certainly wounding and murdering people in the process.

Just like they did in Spain.

Almost as bad as facism, or communism, on the face of it.

Still - it's your belief. I respect the fact that you have your beliefs, even if you oppose the beliefs of others.

Of course - anarchist ideology could be considered to be a form of organised religion to some...
 
Sorry. said:
He's clearly a lot more thoughtful than yourself, who is apparently incapable of noticing the difference between attacking the catholic church as an organisation overtly supporting fascism, and the mass eradication of religious people and beliefs.

Read your history books - they didn't just torch a few churches.

Revisionism is also a common anarchist trait, I almost forgot.

Anyway - I'll leave you all to it.

Clearly you don't like having your core beliefs challenged - and you've reacted just as I thought you would - like a Muslim who just got told Allah doesn't exist and that maybe he should join the anarchists instead of all that praying lark.

:D
 
pidgeonhead said:
Read your history books - they didn't just torch a few churches.

Some anarchists murdered some priests. Some of them were justified, others not. I'm still an anarchist, and I still don't murder priests. Go figure.

Revisionism is also a common anarchist trait, I almost forgot.

Says him trying to pretend their was a mass anti-Catholic pogrom, rather than Civil War, in 1936.

Clearly you don't like having your core beliefs challenged - and you've reacted just as I thought you would - like a Muslim who just got told Allah doesn't exist and that maybe he should join the anarchists instead of all that praying lark.

Oh gosh, please don't question my core beliefs with your searing critique :rolleyes:
 
Taxamo Welf said:
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There are branches of Herbert Read ourside yorkshire :eek:

Surely not the beginning of a provisonal Herbert Read International.
 
ClassWar said:
Over 300 French towns and cities have now seen riots against the police and the government. More will follow.

Youth in cities as far as Brussels and Berlin have shown their support - it is time we did the same.

As the French state prepares for curfews and an even bigger crack down against working class support, we say loud and clear "Support the rioters".

Make your voice heard at the French embasssy in London at 3pm on Thursday 10th November. The address:

French Embassy in the United Kingdom
58 Knightsbridge,
LONDON SW1X 7JT

Why support these nutters that go round attacking working class homes and cars?. :mad:
 
These nutters are known in France as the "boer".

None of them ever have or ever will have anything to do with anarchism, mainly because they are from religious communities.

Also I guess they're used to trading one oppressive regime with another, and don't want to repeat the mistake.

Sorry said:
Some anarchists murdered some priests. Some of them were justified, others not. I'm still an anarchist, and I still don't murder priests. Go figure.

In the laughably unlikely event of an anarchist revolution, when you are opposed by the priests and the immams and the nuns and the bhuddists and the monks, as well as 99 percent of the remaining population - well, you'll have to murder a few people in order to take power, surely?

Not contemplated offing a few toffs, should they stand between you and their castle?

Whatever happened to "eat the rich"?

As much as the systems that keep people poor must change, and resistance to globalisation is of fundamental importance, and oppressive Western governments must be opposed, unfair trade subsidies starving the developing world - I don't really think anarchism is doing anything worth noting to motivate people into joining them.

And it's a point of fact, ironically, that it's the Christian development agencies, and the Make Poverty History lot, with their huge public awareness and effective partnerships with many other agencies, who are making far more progress in terms of tipping the balance of global empowerment towards those who need it most.

I just think, in all honesty, it is the anarchists refusal to accept religion as anything other than a system of mind control which is its greatest failure.

That and all the infighting and arguing over petty points of principle.

Anarchism will always be limited to the athiest, in that respect, which thereby denies it the wealth of social networks and community relations it so desperately needs, if it is to be taken seriously.

But if you genuinely do help the more vulnerable in your respective communities, in a constructive way, then more power to you, seriously.

I just think it's a shame such an irrelevant issue - i.e. someone's belief in a God or whatever - should be automatically put down by the principles of anarchism in the way it is.

Is it really only the Godless people who think they can lead this world into a new age?

Maybe a new thread topic. Who knows? Who cares?

Most of you will have read this far and ignored the valid points in favour of trying to land some insults - but you'll be having the same secular arguments you have now in five years time, and nothing will have changed for you.

A prospect I would find somewhat depressing if I were involved in promoting anarchist thought.
 
revol68 said:
you daft cunt, every one fo the rioters ahs said it's caused they are treated like shit, cos they wanna hit back, that France hates them and they hate france, they don't feel algerian either, they are in the words of one of them nothing.

In the words of another "france is stamping their face into the shit".

These kids feel no belief in anything they know the Imans are useless. Some of them might believe in god in a very vague way but their lifestyles are very secular, they share a culture more in tune with NWA than Nation of Islam.

I work with a lot of Muslim students in Hackney - asked them what they thought all the rioting was about - "racism, no money, no services, don't want to be discriminated against, want job" - no mention of Islam at all.
Do you think everyone who goes to church for weddings and funerals is Christian as well?
 
pidgeonhead said:
Also I guess they're used to trading one oppressive regime with another, and don't want to repeat the mistake.
are you thick or something?

the vast majority of the people who have been rioting are FRENCH, born in FRANCE. but, no, for you, by the sounds of things, they're IMMIGRANTS, doubtless because of the colour of their skin. didn't have to scratch very hard to find some unpleasant undercurrents in yr thought.
 
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