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Sunburnt people = divs

I wish people wouldn't go about so bloody burned... for a start it's really painful to look at. Yeah, some people it happens by accident when they're caught out, but some people you see are in a position to do something about it (like getting out of the sun, for a start) but seem to positively revel in it.

Mind, it would help if suncream weren't so bloody expensive, which I suspect puts a lot of people off.

As soon as it creeps over at 23 degrees here I don't even go out at lunch hour without at least factor 20 on. Bloody Norwegan/Irish ancestry! :mad:
 
Cloo said:
I wish people wouldn't go about so bloody burned... for a start it's really painful to look at. Yeah, some people it happens by accident when they're caught out, but some people you see are in a position to do something about it (like getting out of the sun, for a start) but seem to positively revel in it.

Mind, it would help if suncream weren't so bloody expensive, which I suspect puts a lot of people off.

As soon as it creeps over at 23 degrees here I don't even go out at lunch hour without at least factor 20 on. Bloody Norwegan/Irish ancestry! :mad:
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You can actually get some pretty good deals on suncream at the moment. I think we're given mixed messages about tanning. In the ads for sunblock people are always really tanned. As usual we're being sold a lifestyle image that flies in the face of what we're being told is good for our health.
 
Cloo said:
Mind, it would help if suncream weren't so bloody expensive, which I suspect puts a lot of people off.
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Yes BUT every year Boots and Superdrug do buy 1 get 1 free offers on lots, if not all, suncare brands (including their own cheaper brands). I know for a fact that Boots' offers have been on for a month and are still on.

I think that's a really good thing and for people with skin like mine (i.e. potential lobsterness and dangerous moles), £8 for 2 bottles of sunscreen is hardly excessive IMO.
 
I'm sure Ray Mears would have some handy tips for making your own sun screen out of badger spunk & yak urine, or the suchlike.

:cool:
 
SubZeroCat said:
£8 for 2 bottles of sunscreen is hardly excessive IMO.
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I think the price could be relevant depending on your income. If you're on benefits and living on £45 a week for clothing, food,bills etc £8 is a bloody hefty chunk out of your money.

Must admit I buy my stuff from Avon or Poundland. Poundland don't do Factor 30, which is for my tattoos.
 
geminisnake said:
I think the price could be relevant depending on your income. If you're on benefits and living on £45 a week for clothing, food,bills etc £8 is a bloody hefty chunk out of your money.

Must admit I buy my stuff from Avon or Poundland. Poundland don't do Factor 30, which is for my tattoos.
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No you're right, it's just something I would make an allowance for. I bought some last year when I was on benefits IIRC.

It doesn't matter how cheap or what brand the sunscreen is, as long as it has at least 4 star UVA rating and is a high enough factor for your skin.
 
Orang Utan said:
Does sunscreen ever go out of date?
I've had the same bottle for years
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Absolutely YES. Only good for 2 years I think.

The protection factor supposedly diminishes after that










although I've always wondered if that's just a scam to get you to buy new bottles
 
Orang Utan said:
No date on mine, and as I said, mine's a few years old and seems to work - going to Barcelona tomorrow, so maybe I should get some more
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Get some more just to be safe. The effectiveness lessens - ie you think you're putting on factor 30 but its only giving you factor 15 or so protection.

I use buckets of the stuff, usually factor 30 and above because:

1. I'm quite fair
2. I take a medication that makes you sun-sensitive
3. I've had one malignant melanoma and I don't want another.
4. I've got sooooo many more than 20 moles

The only times I've ever been sunburnt have been in the UK. I lived in the tropics for 18 years and didn't get burnt once - you are so much more aware of the risk when the sun shines all the time and sunscreen application becomes a habit. Most people who get burnt on a sunny day here would probably be more diligent with their suncreen on holiday in a hot climate - we kinda forget that english sun burns too.
 
EastEnder said:
I'm sure Ray Mears would have some handy tips for making your own sun screen out of badger spunk & yak urine, or the suchlike.

:cool:
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Never trust a fat forager
 
felixthecat said:
Get some more just to be safe. The effectiveness lessens - ie you think you're putting on factor 30 but its only giving you factor 15 or so protection.

I use buckets of the stuff, usually factor 30 and above because:

1. I'm quite fair
2. I take a medication that makes you sun-sensitive
3. I've had one malignant melanoma and I don't want another.
4. I've got sooooo many more than 20 moles

The only times I've ever been sunburnt have been in the UK. I lived in the tropics for 18 years and didn't get burnt once - you are so much more aware of the risk when the sun shines all the time and sunscreen application becomes a habit. Most people who get burnt on a sunny day here would probably be more diligent with their suncreen on holiday in a hot climate - we kinda forget that english sun burns too.
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no expiry date at all on the sides or the bottom?
 
felixthecat said:
The only times I've ever been sunburnt have been in the UK. I lived in the tropics for 18 years and didn't get burnt once - you are so much more aware of the risk when the sun shines all the time and sunscreen application becomes a habit. Most people who get burnt on a sunny day here would probably be more diligent with their suncreen on holiday in a hot climate - we kinda forget that english sun burns too.
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This is so true. I think people forget that UK sun can burn or can be very strong/dangerous. When you go on holiday somewhere hot packing your sunscreen is a habit, like taking sunglasses/bikini/shorts etc....and so you apply it there. People don't think to apply it here because they are not a beach in an exotic foreign country :D
 
SubZeroCat said:
Sometimes expiry dates aren't printed in ink, they are raised numbers in the plastic. Look harder OU :p
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It could be soooo old it doesn't have a date?? :)

In which case you definetly should buy some new stuff OU :)
 
I don't really understand SPFs any more - years ago I used to use a cream that was Factor 2, and I never, ever burnt even when working outdoors all day (I'm not fair skinned though) and Factor 12 was considered really high, almost a sunblock.

I thought that the 'factor' was a multiplication of the time you'd normally burn in - ie if you could burn in 10 mins then Factor 12 would give you 12 x 10 = 2 hours without burning. And if you were stuck with low Factor suncream, you could get the same effect by reapplying it more frequently.

But nobody in their right mind would buy a Factor 2 suncream now, so it must refer to something different these days? Is it to do with reducing sun damage before the burning stage?

These days I tend to use nothing at all for a short exposure ie if I'm going to be outside for a few blocks of 20 mins here and there during the day, but then use a total sunblock on the rare occasions I absolutely have to be stuck outside with no shade or protective clothing for a long period.

I just don't really trust the advice now that people should be using SPF creams all year round - though if you are fair-skinned I suppose you would have to if you don't want to cover up with a burkha in summer or stay inside all day.
 
rich! said:
I think that was the year I got radiation burns on my knees. I had leggings, a hat and long sleeves, but forgot that the holes in the leggings would let the sun through...
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1994 was also ridiculously hot. I got a rare sunburn myself, on my forehead, the result of being laid out on the grass on Saturday afternoon knowing I was burning but too stoned to go back up to my tent or indeed do anything at all (I also had to endure an entire set of Galliano, which was much more painful). My best mate fell asleep at the meeting point waiting for us to pick her up, and got a triangular burn on her knee where her jeans were ripped.

From having been pretty lame with the SPF, I wear a lot of factor 50 these days - I need it for my tattoos so usually end up splashing it about everywhere else. Otherwise it's F20. I am very fortunate in that I don't burn much and tan quite quickly and evenly, but then again that just encourages me to stay out in the sun. Not a sunbather though, too boring! One of my colleagues has just come back from a week in Spain where, for the umpteenth year in a row, she spent every day on the beach, 10 hours straight in the full sun - she's more orange than Paris Hilton.
 
May Kasahara said:
One of my colleagues has just come back from a week in Spain where, for the umpteenth year in a row, she spent every day on the beach, 10 hours straight in the full sun - she's more orange than Paris Hilton.
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That's really dangerous, 10hrs a day. I'm assuming the place in Spain she went to was very very hot?
 
Yeah, it was right down the bottom I think. She's an old skool bird in many ways, though, holding 'unreconstructed' attitudes on a number of issues (e.g. gypsies don't deserve any rights at all, human or otherwise...)
 
Orang Utan said:
It doesn't - I'm just pointing and laughing at them and slapping their backs
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Oh I wholeheartedly agree, I too find it amusing when people get sunburn, and I enjoy slapping people's backs when they've got it. I never get sunburn, people get jealous of me and think it's just 'cos I'm black, or to be more politically correct let's say my darker skin contains more melanin than Anglo-saxons' skin does, but the main reason is that I just wear a combination of one or more of the following: sun block, hat, long sleeves and trousers, and I stay out of the sun most of the time anyway 'cos I don't like too much of it...

Orang Utan said:
It's hotter on hot sunny days though innit?
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Well, it depends... if it's a hotter day, it doesn't necessarily mean that the sun is hotter, it might just mean that more of the sun's heat has reached the earth, or more heat has been re-radiated from the earth, or that more of it remains in the atmosphere, but lets not go into all this it reminds me of science lessons (which I enjoyed BTW, I just didnt like the teachers).

BTW when I called you a 'fucking div' I didn't mean anything against you, I was just being sarcastic, no real offence intended.
 
I got me some sunburn last weekend camping in the New Forest. I did some damage limitation though by buying some sunscreen. Have gallons of the bloody stuff at home but forgot to pack some.

Ive been trying to work out if the sunburn was from having the car window open though rather than wandering around in the sun for a few hours Sunday morning - its mostly on my right hand side. I very much forget about the sun being able to cook me when Im driving :oops:
 
5T3R30TYP3 said:
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But, who reallly gives a shit? If you're not the one who's burnt red, crispy, and cancer-prone, then what does it matter to you?
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Oh great - the annual misplaced faith in sunscreen thread. What joy! :rolleyes:

No! You are a total fucking div if you think sunburn has anything to do with skin cancer. :rolleyes:

The uv frequencies that put you at risk of cancer are not the ones that burn you and are the least filtered by any screen short of a cape/roof.

Which is why the whole sunscreen thing is such a total fucking joke - the only way to minimise the risk of skin cancer is to stay out of the sun altogether or to stop using sunscreen - that way sunburn, your body's normal warning mechanism would kick-in long before any significant damage occurs.

Oh and has anyone mentioned that next to nobody applies their sunscreen in an effective manner or reapplies it often enough?

Or that many of the common screening agents are themselves a significant cancer/genetic damage risk?
 
madzone said:
Are tanned people gonna be the new chavs then?
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Nope, quite the opposite in fact. Having a tan has long been the sign of a lower class person, whilst pale skin indicated wealth/quality/class. The suntan as an indicator of the opposite is only a recent thing in comparison.
 
Callie said:
I very much forget about the sun being able to cook me when Im driving :oops:
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I did that the other week - managed to burn my right arm just driving to Wigan and back :mad:

And stupid stupid me went out for a walk the other Sunday, there were rain clouds everywhere but the sun broke in the park. What did I do? Forgot about sunburn and sat by the lake for an hour. Looked like fucking Rudolph for the next few days :rolleyes::facepalm:
 
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