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Stephen Lawrence murder trial begins at Old Bailey

Poor lads where fitted up init...

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London_Calling said:
Noye was a feared and disliked criminal who was hated by very many people who knew him well - plenty would have been very happy to grass him up, if they had proof and could do it anonymously. He was a cunt to pretty well everyone.
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Not true. It wasn't until late in his career that Noye sowed the seeds of his own destruction by acting like he didn't have to follow the same rules as "normal" crims. Before that, he was pretty scrupulous about cultivating those who knew him best. That he got convicted in the end wasn't down to an overwhelming weight of grassing against him, it was down to bloody-mindedness

This other lot will likely be a self styled 'band of brothers' gang with loyalty and hatred of authority being integral to their relationships. They are each 'one of your own' in south London vernacular. They've also had two decades to prepare for this.
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Two decades of thinking you're untouchable isn't as good a preparation as it might be.
As for "hatred of authority", given how often that band of thugs got a free pass from the local OB, you might more accurately say "contempt for".
 
butchersapron said:
Given that Dobson was lying to cover for Norris even in this latest trial i suspect they/he feel the potential costs far outweigh the potential benefits.
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I have a feeling they are pinning everything on an appeal otherwise I think they may have held their hands up.
 
Don't expect anyone to know this for sure off the top of their head but given that this re-trial only happened following a judgment on appeal, does this impact on the likelihood of the convicted being given leave to appeal? Or is it irrelevant?
 
Irrelevant.

ETA: I cannot see an application for leave being refused, either, at least not if drafted by a reasonably competent brief.
 
panda, so norris's dad, who is 'a bit naughty' (copyright D. Dyer) was paying cops off to supress evidence against his wee boy then?
 
malatesta32 said:
panda, so norris's dad, who is 'a bit naughty' (copyright D. Dyer) was paying cops off to supress evidence against his wee boy then?
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come on! not fair to ask really
fingers/pies/dodgy cunts is all that is needed to be known really
oh and tis 'nawty' 'propah naw-tay'
 
malatesta32 said:
panda, so norris's dad, who is 'a bit naughty' (copyright D. Dyer) was paying cops off to supress evidence against his wee boy then?
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It's tangled.
Basically, what West Midlands Serious Crime Squad were to violence, South-east Regional Crime Squad were to corruption. While Norris's dad was never caught handing wedges of soiled fivers to coppers, he certainly had associations with coppers from SERCS, as well as with local plod. Associations good enough that he had an uncanny ability to predict when his assets were going to be raided, etc, and associations that would have stood him in good stead for a blind eye to be turned to the indiscretions of his son's little posse. How deeply these associations influenced the original Lawrence investigations, and how much was down to shoddy work and institutionally racist practices by the coppers, we'll never know. What we do know is that between those two factors, justice was denied for nearly 20 years.
 
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