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Hmm. I used to work there sometimes and found the town centre really quite grim. But some of the outskirts - former coal fields - are quite beautiful these days. Easy to get to Liverpool, which has become one of my favourite cities in the north in recent years.
 
It's grim up North. :D

I'm not a local and have only passed through St Helens but It's pretty ok for surrounding attractions. As mentioned Liverpool is within easy access as is Manchester, Warrington etc. A pal of mine lives there and he really likes it so it must have soemthing going for it.

It's reet good for Rugby:cool:

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Eh up mate! Welcome to The Shithole of the North - you're gonna hate it here! :D Who you working for then? Is it the lovely company responsible for the massive spread of asthma in children here?

Anyhoo - most of it is totally grim yes, and the people are under-nourished though mostly obese, ignorant, and the most unhealthy-looking crowd I've ever seen. It has a pall hanging over it, thanks to Pilks constant spewing out of all manner of muck from endless chimneys, and the pubs and clubs are populated by people after drawing blood, mostly.

However, I live here and so does the fella now, so you know, it's not ALL bad ;)

Seriously - there are two places that are absolutely golden, and where I spend most of the time when I'm out of the house. Carr Mill Dam, and Taylor Park. Both of them have an absolutely amazing array of birdlife. We've seen kingfishers, great-crested grebes doing their mating dance, cormorants, herons, all manner of ducks, gulls, geese, coots etc, swans breed every year at Taylor Park and they are both lovely walks.

As said by others, Liverpool Manc and Warrington are dead easy to get to.

Whereabouts you gonna be living mate? We should get together - come round ours for a few smokes, drinks, sommat to eat eh? :)
 
Alright mate how's tricks? I never realised you lived there =)

I'm not 100% sure I'll be doing it, but hope so. The money's good but they've just tried to drop the rate at the last minute the sneaky gits, so just arguing about that.

I'll be doing asbestos surveys for one of the local housing associations prior to them refurbing a load of properties... Get to see all the best ones that way, see!

Yeah I'm the same, I always seek out the water for the birdlife when I'm in a new spot.... Probably looking at staying in a bnb a couple of nights a week to start off with, and see what its like (know any nice but cheap ones?)

Cheers for the invite =) will have to take you up on that once I've got it all figured out!
 
Alright mate how's tricks? I never realised you lived there =)

I'm not 100% sure I'll be doing it, but hope so. The money's good but they've just tried to drop the rate at the last minute the sneaky gits, so just arguing about that.

I'll be doing asbestos surveys for one of the local housing associations prior to them refurbing a load of properties... Get to see all the best ones that way, see!

Yeah I'm the same, I always seek out the water for the birdlife when I'm in a new spot.... Probably looking at staying in a bnb a couple of nights a week to start off with, and see what its like (know any nice but cheap ones?)

Cheers for the invite =) will have to take you up on that once I've got it all figured out!
Haha - yeh, it's a cesspool but SOMEONE of quality has to live here, so it might as well be me ;)

Ah cool - well let me know how you get on.

Carr Mill Dam has a Premier Inn right on site luckily enough - so you'd get a brilliant view of the dam every morning (if you're on the right side obviously!) :D All the BnBs I know of are like most - dosshouses.

Well, gis a shout if you do land up here, and we'll have a nice drinky :):thumbs:
 
most of it is totally grim yes, and the people are under-nourished though mostly obese, ignorant, and the most unhealthy-looking crowd I've ever seen. It has a pall hanging over it, thanks to Pilks constant spewing out of all manner of muck from endless chimneys, and the pubs and clubs are populated by people after drawing blood, mostly.


yeh, it's a cesspool

Rough as fuck.
 
Two people (that I've noticed) have mentioned easy access to Warrington but I can't imagine why anyone would want to go to Warrington if they didn't live here! :confused:
People might LIKE driving around endless roundabouts in a place that looks all the same!
 
You can also easily get to Wigan, which is a smidgeon less grim than St Helens but otherwise much the same.

I sort of hoped after my less than enthusiastic first comment some St Helens regulars would descend to tell me about the great pubs / cafe / whatever that I didn't know about. But it's clearly as shit as it seems on the surface. There's a giant head:

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It's called 'Dream' and apparently is dreaming about what St Helens could be like if it wasn't shit.
 
I lived there for a few months in 1998 or so. Sure, not the prettiest place and cold and windy, but I liked it there, found love and had a great time. But then I was young, optimistic and excitable.
There used to be a respectable record shop and a cheap sandwich shop in the centre. That's about it.
 
You can also easily get to Wigan, which is a smidgeon less grim than St Helens but otherwise much the same.

I sort of hoped after my less than enthusiastic first comment some St Helens regulars would descend to tell me about the great pubs / cafe / whatever that I didn't know about. But it's clearly as shit as it seems on the surface. There's a giant head:

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It's called 'Dream' and apparently is dreaming about what St Helens could be like if it wasn't shit.
Looks like a cock/novelty buttplug. Nice and wide, flared base so it doesn't go all the way up :D
 
You can also easily get to Wigan, which is a smidgeon less grim than St Helens but otherwise much the same.

I sort of hoped after my less than enthusiastic first comment some St Helens regulars would descend to tell me about the great pubs / cafe / whatever that I didn't know about. But it's clearly as shit as it seems on the surface. There's a giant head:

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It's called 'Dream' and apparently is dreaming about what St Helens could be like if it wasn't shit.

True - about Wigan. I forgot there's also The Citadel - great music venue.

The Dream looks like a giant cock end from all directions. Situated as it is on top of the old colliery, I like to think it's symbolic of the way the miners were so hugely dicked around.

There used to be a respectable record shop
Kaleidoscope is the record shop, well remembered :)
 
Two people (that I've noticed) have mentioned easy access to Warrington but I can't imagine why anyone would want to go to Warrington if they didn't live here! :confused:
Our kid lives there which is why I mentioned it. Oh and IKEA in case you want to walk round for 6 hours trying to find your way out :D
 
Here is what happened to me in St Helens in 1985. I was in a pub with my then boyfriend and two friends. A large bloke approached us and stated, accurately, that we were scousers. He was clearly offended by this fact. It's a bit of a blur what happened next but it involved a large quantity of huge, lagered up rugby league fans. We made it away in the car and on later inspection there were fist pummels in the roof of the car.

So in case the subject comes up, I don't think they like scousers. They certainly didn't then. Things may have changed but check first, if the issue arises.
 
Here is what happened to me in St Helens in 1985. I was in a pub with my then boyfriend and two friends. A large bloke approached us and stated, accurately, that we were scousers. He was clearly offended by this fact. It's a bit of a blur what happened next but it involved a large quantity of huge, lagered up rugby league fans. We made it away in the car and on later inspection there were fist pummels in the roof of the car.

So in case the subject comes up, I don't think they like scousers. They certainly didn't then. Things may have changed but check first, if the issue arises.
Don't people from Liverpool proper call people from these outlying towns plastic scousers? They sound pretty scouse in St Helens to me anyway - quite different just a few miles away in Wigan. I think it is Stuart Maconie who writes about the invisible, contested line between Scouse and Lancs - and the fact it is ever shifting eastwards.
 
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