Excuse me, I'm a fine upstanding member of society. Subversion and fighting the forces of Capitalism is your job. A can of spray paint and a bicycle is all you need. Get on it Udo.
St David's Day - COUNTER DEMO
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Excuse me, I'm a fine upstanding member of society. Subversion and fighting the forces of Capitalism is your job. A can of spray paint and a bicycle is all you need. Get on it Udo.
Udo Erasmus
Well-Known Member
This is one RED who ain't staying under the bed
I was quite gratified once when I used to graffitti the boards opposite the millenium stadium near where the Riverside Market is now held, when walking through a completely different part of town, I heard some young proletarians saying how cool the slogans were!
Excuse me, I'm a fine upstanding member of society. Subversion and fighting the forces of Capitalism is your job. A can of spray paint and a bicycle is all you need. Get on it Udo.
I was quite gratified once when I used to graffitti the boards opposite the millenium stadium near where the Riverside Market is now held, when walking through a completely different part of town, I heard some young proletarians saying how cool the slogans were!
Udo Erasmus
Well-Known Member
This is one RED who ain't staying under the bed
As we say in our organisation: It's never too late to love, or rebel!
As we say in our organisation: It's never too late to love, or rebel!
Udo Erasmus
Well-Known Member
No! But we should act as if we were accountable to our class - and history . . .
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
What organisation?
Udo Erasmus
Well-Known Member
. . . . .
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Udo Erasmus
Well-Known Member
Were you a member?
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Udo Erasmus
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penderyn2000
unapologetic socialist
Many thanks to Udo Erasmus for recommending me some reading matter, even if this was something I first perused before he was born. What left a particular impression on me was the need for the working class to pursue an independent political course and not get drawn into cross-class alliances as Udo has been doing for the past three years.
However, the Communist Manifesto is an explanation of communism and only in a very limited way a guide to action. All socialists want to see a united world in which the nation state is history. The question is how we get there. In the Middle East at present socialists support the right of Iraqis to self-determination and to expel the imperialists from their country. Ideally Iraqis would also be fighting for a socialist federation of the Middle East, but we do not abandon them if they don't.
In Wales, as I said, there is no comparable national oppression, but there is historical oppression and still elements of anti-Welsh racism (I've seen this from both sides, having lived 31 years in England and 21 in Wales).
I apologise if my previous post was ambiguous. There are situations where socialists should indeed support the political independence of small nations, but in the case of Wales, it is the need simply to be recognised as a nation that is the 'aspiration' to which I was referring.
However, the Communist Manifesto is an explanation of communism and only in a very limited way a guide to action. All socialists want to see a united world in which the nation state is history. The question is how we get there. In the Middle East at present socialists support the right of Iraqis to self-determination and to expel the imperialists from their country. Ideally Iraqis would also be fighting for a socialist federation of the Middle East, but we do not abandon them if they don't.
In Wales, as I said, there is no comparable national oppression, but there is historical oppression and still elements of anti-Welsh racism (I've seen this from both sides, having lived 31 years in England and 21 in Wales).
I apologise if my previous post was ambiguous. There are situations where socialists should indeed support the political independence of small nations, but in the case of Wales, it is the need simply to be recognised as a nation that is the 'aspiration' to which I was referring.
That's a bit patronising , isn't it ? Age does not have a monopoly on wisdom.
penderyn2000
unapologetic socialist
Very true. Mutual respect between old and young is vital to a healthy socialist movement. But when a person has no respect for anybody, no matter their experience and commitment, what respect do they deserve in return? Just ask the past three chairs of Cardiff Stop the War Coalition.
Nevertheless, next time Udo Erasmus instructs me what to read, I will attempt to reply as if talking to a serious and mature activist. Now remind me - how did this thread start?
Nevertheless, next time Udo Erasmus instructs me what to read, I will attempt to reply as if talking to a serious and mature activist. Now remind me - how did this thread start?
Dic Penderyn
Newport Civic Pride!
He certainly doesn't advertise them.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
hmmm, it's not on the press releases and stuff but i reckon they're defo up to something! 
a few days this week there have been 2 sentry boxes outside the castle with a 'guard' standing outside each (complete with hat and bayonnet ffs!)
i have also seen a 'come and see the changing of the guard at Cardiff Castle' thingy but can't find it now.
they had a tank at the entrance yesterday as well.
does anyone know when these 'guards' arrived? who/what is behind it? and more importantly wtf is it supposed to be about?
cos we certainly don't need them and i strongly object to both them being there and the militarisation of 'our' city and Wales's castle
a few days this week there have been 2 sentry boxes outside the castle with a 'guard' standing outside each (complete with hat and bayonnet ffs!)
i have also seen a 'come and see the changing of the guard at Cardiff Castle' thingy but can't find it now.
they had a tank at the entrance yesterday as well.
does anyone know when these 'guards' arrived? who/what is behind it? and more importantly wtf is it supposed to be about?
cos we certainly don't need them and i strongly object to both them being there and the militarisation of 'our' city and Wales's castle
waterloowelshy
Well-Known Member
you mean this thread has a point?
i just thought it was made up by some angst ridden objectors wanting to conquer the world - but turned into a farce as one objector thought their objections were stronger than the other objectors?! As far as i am aware - Wales remains the same today - the protests to stop us being Welsh appear to have failed.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
here we go!
sly fuckers
anyone got any Troops out banners knocking about? or fancy making some at short notice like 'army hands off St David's Day' 'no militirisation of our castle!'
etcetc
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news...ation-mode-for-st-david-s-day-91466-20541214/
sly fuckers
anyone got any Troops out banners knocking about? or fancy making some at short notice like 'army hands off St David's Day' 'no militirisation of our castle!'
etcetc
ffs!icwales said:
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news...ation-mode-for-st-david-s-day-91466-20541214/
Udo Erasmus
Well-Known Member
sly fuckers
anyone got any Troops out banners knocking about? or fancy making some at short notice like 'army hands off St David's Day' 'no militirisation of our castle!'
etcetc
Unfortunately, won't be around this weekend, but a good idea would be to download anti-war leaflets from Military Families against the War website: www.mfaw.org.uk as many servicemen are actually receptive to anti-war argument. Building an anti-war network within the military will play a key role in bringing the war to an end.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Gavin Bl
terrible awful baaad
Udo Erasmus
Well-Known Member
The counter-demo post was just a wind-up! 
Gavin Bl
terrible awful baaad
The counter-demo post was just a wind-up!
say it ain't so?
lewislewis
Lumumba Cymru
FFS the army holding an event will totally ruin the original non-political, non-military parade.
When i tell my mates about the parade now they'll think i'm even more of a sad act and that i'm talking about men in uniform being led down the street by a goat.
When i tell my mates about the parade now they'll think i'm even more of a sad act and that i'm talking about men in uniform being led down the street by a goat.
Col_Buendia
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Karac
Mae Hen Wlad Fy Mamau
I bet Udo went with a sandwich board around his body expressing those exact sentiments
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