poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Not really - I just couldn't be bothered replying to that bizarre assortment of projections, ad-hominems and strawmen contained in that rather lengthy post of yours.GarfieldLeChat said:
skiving little fucker
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A Dashing Blade
Takes horses to water but can't make donkeys drink
poster342002 said:
Looks like it from here . . .
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
wheres the projection?poster342002 said:
you are using a computor - true.
you are using the interent - true.
you are using the tools of a captialist system - true.
by this extrapoliation you are exploiting someone else in order to do so under the capitalist system.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Yeah, poster342002 - fuck off back to Russia.
Pingu
Credo
GarfieldLeChat said:
*thinks of his poor friends at pipex who are slaving away under the heel of the opressors to keep their part of the internet working*
hes exploiting my mates!
Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh?
That's what I'm on about. Did you see him repressing them? You saw it, didn't you?
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
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GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
christ don't you think russia has enough problems...sleaterkinney said:
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
love the dishonest edit too...poster342002 said:
but actualyl what you are doing now is paint shades of grey and saying my exploitation is not comparible to your exploitation.
so what's the scale of exploitation here then care to define it. do you have at one end soem one on the dole whos exploiting the rest of the wroking populus by virtue of taking from the national fund and increasing the demands goverments make on the exploitation of workers and at the other some big industry fat cat.
what level of exploitation is perfectly acceptable to you and what is above the pale.
in this non real world capitalism you are living in.
seems to me you are splitting hairs to justify your won guilt at being with in the capitalist system and usig it to your own advantage, and bugger the consiquences for others, then errecting a true strawman by saying all bosses are cunts and that it's beyond the pale to be one.
hypocyrte.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
to my mind it's a worse form of exploitation he's using the system but denying any culpability for doing so... in other words allowing others to exploit people on his behalf and therefore being the exploited by consent to proxy...Pingu said:
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
Might make for some interesting real life exchanges...GarfieldLeChat said:
A) Hi there, can I help you?
B) Two pints of lager please
A) Coming right up!
B) Hang on a minute, did you ask me what I wanted because you wanted to do so, or because someone's told you to do it?
A) Errr, well the manager asked me to serve people...
B) So you're just obeying the orders of a superior, and if I let you serve me it's tantamount to expressing approval of those orders! I'd be agreeing with your manager!! Cancel the lager, I'm never going to a pub again....
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
as i said not livign in the real world...
can i also add at this point. pwned...
can i also add at this point. pwned...
Termite Man
zombie flesh eater
poster342002 said:
The Egyptians didn't use slavery IIRC , or if they did it wasn't for building pyramids etc. as that required a skilled workforce and slaves couldn't be trusted for that job !
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
for pyramid building this was certainly true they used artisans who worked for the priviledge of doing the job for their own reputation however to suggest that the isrealities were not slaves during that time and that the attendees to the houses and courts weren't slaves would be streaching it... you know the whole let my people go...Termite Man said:
Termite Man
zombie flesh eater
GarfieldLeChat said:
I thought as much although I considered
to be refering to the commonly held belief that the pyramids were built by large numbers of slaves who were all whipped to speed up construction , thus it was a shit analogy to use and just thought I'd point that out
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
Termite Man said:I thought as much although I considered
to be refering to the commonly held belief that the pyramids were built by large numbers of slaves who were all whipped to speed up construction , thus it was a shit analogy to use and just thought I'd point that out
true i assumed to this is what it was reffering to in some enforced colonial sterotyped eurocentric ideal of what those uncultured ay-rabs did. However, there is evedence of discaplinary measures against revolting slaves which included the whip and of coruse with a poster this inconsistant about their own levels of ethic or moral culpability one expected that the topic of conversation would have drifted off towards waht consistuted a slave in acenitent times and detracted from the debate.
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
The rest of us are staring slack-jawed at such an example of pwnness Garf.GarfieldLeChat said:
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
in a double tastic thread firstsleaterkinney said:The rest of us are staring slack-jawed at such an example of pwnness Garf.
commie. Pwned.
no he didn't ... touch me, I'm on fire ...
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
The funny thing is how people get so worked up about corporate hierarchies, yet at the same time have no problem whatsoever with telling other people what to do in less "structured" environments. If I've got leaky pipes, I hire a plumber and, in not so many words, say "fix my pipes and I'll give you money". I'm ordering this person to do something in return for giving him cash. He can refuse, as can any employee, in which case I won't give him any cash, just like the employee might get fired.
Put the same thing in an office context and suddenly it's immoral exploitation....
Obviously the principle in no way excuses bad management, bad leadership and genuine exploitation. But the principle itself is timeless, irrefutable and the reason why we have big, sophisticated societies today.
Put the same thing in an office context and suddenly it's immoral exploitation....
Obviously the principle in no way excuses bad management, bad leadership and genuine exploitation. But the principle itself is timeless, irrefutable and the reason why we have big, sophisticated societies today.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
but you eveeeeeeil capitalist piiiiiiiiiggggggg that negates the gnashing and wailing of teeth and teenage angst which is wrapped up in this juvenile form of politics....EastEnder said:
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
the inference being that it'd be exploitation of editors inc yourself to charge your for use of deck chairs not only that but also of course the intial sourcing of the deck chairs would also not be without exploitation of others time/work in their manifacture....editor said:
the infference being that fundamentalist SWP types with the workers are being exploited ridiculiousness of all bosses are scum rhetoric being somewhat alienated from reality...
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
ultra hard line socialist thinks that any form of work where there is a hierarchical structure is a form of exploitation my aside was to suggest that i would be exploiting you if i were to sell you a fictious chair to pull up at fictious metaphorical ring side seats.editor said:
in a parody of their argument it was using both sarcasm and parody to make the point.
the moment, however has passed
