butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ask it the other way round.
Scottish independence - as an Englishman, am I "wrong" not to give a crap?
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What legacy does he currently have that could be tarnished?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The complete destruction of the LDs.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I am not sure what you mean?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ask how much money has been taken out of the UK by these companies rather than how much the UK has given to these companies.
It's not that hard a thing to turn around.
D'wards
IT'S YOUR DECISION DANIEL
Just reading an article by Billy Bragg which raises a good point ?(which may have been raised already on theis thread, but i'm buggered if i'm going to read all 997 messages to find out).
If the Scots gain independence, will we ever be able to prise the Tories out of office? I can't see it happening in the near future, that would swing the majority to Conservative's favour hugely - what a scary thought
If the Scots gain independence, will we ever be able to prise the Tories out of office? I can't see it happening in the near future, that would swing the majority to Conservative's favour hugely - what a scary thought
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
too late really. replace him, make the campaign look like its in trouble. Don't replace him, continue to haemorrhage support and credibility.
If I were in charge of Bitter Together I woulodn't replace Darling but I'd give him as little as possible to do from now on. Preferably, lock him in an electricity cupboard with a box set of Veep and an X box until the second half of September.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
This is in effect what Team Labour, the Big Hitting Peers, was about. Except it went badly wrong when Lord Robertson opened his mouth.
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
will there be some sort of border guard, dressed in black? perhaps based around a barrier or wall? will a son of a british tv political commentator join this watch? will he whilst on a ill fate patrol north of the wall fall in love with a rebellious highland lassie?
who knows?
who knows?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Everyone.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Something interesting is that Scotland will host the Commonwealth games in Glasgow in the summer. Celebrities like Usain Bolt will be present. It could have an effect on the mood which could go in one of two ways.
One way is that Scottish people may take confidence in their ability to put on a world class event and this may reflect in people thinking - yea Scotland it great, it could be independent, cue floaters opting for a yes vote. Or, it could inspire people to think, being part of something greater is a good thing, being part of the commonwealth, being part of Britain, these are good things, it could bolster support for the Union. I really have no idea what effect it could have - but I do think it could have an effect.
One way is that Scottish people may take confidence in their ability to put on a world class event and this may reflect in people thinking - yea Scotland it great, it could be independent, cue floaters opting for a yes vote. Or, it could inspire people to think, being part of something greater is a good thing, being part of the commonwealth, being part of Britain, these are good things, it could bolster support for the Union. I really have no idea what effect it could have - but I do think it could have an effect.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Very little, I'd imagine. Who the fuck takes any notice of the empire games?
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
The overall feeling about the Commonwealth Games is one of irritation at being booted out of our football stadiums so they can use them tbh. That and annoyance at the amount of money that's being poured into a one-off event that's being held in a poor area and that those who actually live there won't be able to afford to go and see.
To be fair that was the general feeling in London before the 2012 games. Once things get going attitudes may change, or they may not.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yep. I was about to post exactly the same thing. I was one of the grumblers about the Olympics, but it was great once it got going. I surprised myself by enjoying it, as did loads of people.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
But others of us did manage to remain 'grumbly' throughout the corporate-military wank-fest.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I salute your indefatigability, sir.
Solid work comrade.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I salute your indefatigability, sir.
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
Yes, he is an MP for an English constituency and we sure as hell don't want him back, sorry
As for the Games, couldn't give a monkeys. Didn't give a monkeys about the London ones either.
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danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Why is that a even worth asking? He lives in England and is an MP for an English constituency. Did you think he'd be deported along with anyone else born in Scotland? Why?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I managed not to see any of it, or read anything about it. I hope to repeat the experience with the Empire Games.
Well it was meant as a joke, albeit a poor one. You know a bit of satire based around the absurdity of some of points that have been raised such as Doctor Who etc. Sorry I inadvertently antagonised, I promise not to do it again.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
safety risks. Chinny recon, I think someone with half a brain put a stop to that madness on a 'shit pr' ground.
also, if the big pull out of scottish orgs from the CBI had not become a story, the beeb would never have suspended its membership. Nuetrality my arse.
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