danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Alfred the Great would be spinning in his grave.
Scottish independence - as an Englishman, am I "wrong" not to give a crap?
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marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
Will check other thread , seems to remove my only objection
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
Westminster took it off the fucking table, for the umpteenth time!! Think both danny and I have posted this before.
Go to the Will you vote for Independence thread William, in the Scotland forum, read it, thoroughly
Then tag danny with questions, he has way more patience than me
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Sorry, I don't buy the 'apparantly'.
I appreciate I should try to get to grips with the other thread (it is massive mind you!) but danny and others have linked relevant stuff from there onto this thread (principally that blog by that Independence minded reverend guy, who's hardly 100% objective himself. But maybe there's other sources ...).
Still, It'll take a lot more convincing for me to be persuaded that removing 70-odd Scottish MPs from Westminster, the majority of them Labour, and only one of them Tory, will make no appreciable difference to the balance of MPs UK-wide.
In other words the Tories would surely by most likely calculations be given an instant boost (for instance after the 2010 election, the most recent, they'd have had an overall majority without Scotland). The fact that the Tories have had landslides on the past, Scotland or not, doesn't contradict the 2010 figures, and we're talking more current politics now -- or at least I am.
Westminster took it off the fucking table, for the umpteenth time!! Think both danny and I have posted this before.
Go to the Will you vote for Independence thread William, in the Scotland forum, read it, thoroughly
Then tag danny with questions, he has way more patience than me
Please don't think I don't wish they'd left it on the table myself (I more meant its merits or demerits in principle really). Bur yes I will look at the other thread. Tomorrow!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Slight problem: He's not based in the US - He's lived in Switzerland since the '90s.
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
Slight problem: He's not based in the US - He's lived in Switzerland since the '90s.
Like I care. He doesn't live here so he should butt out
He hasn't done anything decent since Labyrinth anyway.Of course they're not entitled, just like you can't vote in south London any more(**but what about the Scots based in England, or Wales, who seem not to be entitled to any vote in this fight? Might those Scots, and I speculate)
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Like I care. He doesn't live here so he should butt out
Pfft.
He hasn't done anything decent since "Let's Dance"!
MellySingsDoom
Decimated by the shrapnel of his rhetoric
Must...not...mention...Tin...Machine....
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I happened to like Labyrinth ok
I can't take Bowie seriously with that sub-Rod Stewart feathercut hairdo he has in Labyrinth. He could at least have had it done a la Aladdin Sane!
weltweit
Well-Known Member
We should have a numeric advantage permitting immediate invasion but the Scots will have some nuclear subs I think which could deter us!
weltweit
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There are conflicting motions it seems, there are the Basque, the Catalan, the Scottish and others wanting to be independent from their current mother countries, and then there are larger countries wanting to and working to assimilate in a way within the European Union.
And yet, these smaller units, Catalonia or Scotland for example, while they want to be independent of Spain or the UK, they still want to be a part of the EU.
I can't say I understand it.
And yet, these smaller units, Catalonia or Scotland for example, while they want to be independent of Spain or the UK, they still want to be a part of the EU.
I can't say I understand it.
Why the fuck would the army stay together? Scotland would probably end up with a massive one given the relative prevalence of Scots in the army
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I thought that military seperation was a devo max proposal, and devo max isn't on offer so the armed forces will stay together. It'd be a lot more difficult, logistically, than just splitting of the highland regiment.
And strategically it wouldn't seem to make much sense either.
And strategically it wouldn't seem to make much sense either.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
They have most of the submarines already tbh
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
Are there any Highland/Scottish regiments left? Thought they'd all been chopped in cost saving efforts, but I don't really pay attention to the MoD.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Scottish regts are still there (under the aegis of the Royal Regt of Scotland, a mega regt of 6 bttns). The Rifles are the former Light Infantry Regt (salt of the earth!) and The Royal Green Jackets (scum of the earth!)
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
They all wear silly hats though
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