Scottish independence - as an Englishman, am I "wrong" not to give a crap?

[danny la rouge]

The Beauly Brothers.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Queen Bitch of the South

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Is there Life in Montrose?

 

[danny la rouge]

Alloa Young Dudes

 

[danny la rouge]

Is there Fife on Mars?

 

[danny la rouge]

Speyside Oddity

 

[littlebabyjesus]

All the Young Dougals?

 

[butchersapron]

The Livingston Gnome

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Be My Fife

 

[krtek a houby]

Strangely enough I've gone right off Bowie. The man doesn't even live in the UK, do fuck off back to the US luv.

I'm surprised he didn't ask Kate to recite the Lord's Prayer. Seriously, though, even though I disagree with him, hasn't he a right to air his views on Scotland, like the rest of us. Even though we don't all live there?

 

[DotCommunist]

Here am I, floating in a tin can. Scotlands flag is blue and theres nothing osbourne can doooo....

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I'm surprised he didn't ask Kate to recite the Lord's Prayer. Seriously, though, even though I disagree with him, hasn't he a right to air his views on Scotland, like the rest of us. Even though we don't all live there?

Why would he even have a view, let alone think to air it?

 

[geminisnake]

Strangely enough I've gone right off Bowie. The man doesn't even live in the UK, do fuck off back to the US luv.

And I've just found out he didn't actually come to the UK to collect his award so double fuck you Bowie!

krtek a houby yes he is entitled to have an opinion and spout it, but he must also be prepared for the backlash when he doesn't even live in the UK. People really don't seem to understand Scots are sick to the back teeth of people from other countries interfering in their lives when those people have absolutely no idea what living in Scotland is like.
Can't be arsed with 'patriots' that don't even live in the place they are patriotic about and that does include Mr Connery!

 

[geminisnake]

Is there Life in Montrose?

It's life Jim but not as we know it

 

[DotCommunist]

Captain. Only Bones addressed Kirk as 'Jim'. Spock called him Captain

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Such a shame the Slovaks didn't want to keep Czechoslovakia together.

 

[andysays]

Why would he even have a view, let alone think to air it?

Why wouldn't he have a view, or indeed think to air it?

I'm not sure he either expected or intended that his "intervention" would have a significant effect.

And I suggest "Always Crashing in the Same Stranraer"

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Why wouldn't he have a view, or indeed think to air it?

Same reason Sean Connery shouldn't really have a view. He loves the UK so much he almost brings himself to pay taxes here.

 

[andysays]

Same reason Sean Connery shouldn't really have a view. He loves the UK so much he almost brings himself to pay taxes here.

That seems a bizarre argument. Shall we conclude that in future you will only be expressing an opinion on issues in the part of the world that you pay taxes in?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

That seems a bizarre argument. Shall we conclude that in future you will only be expressing an opinion on issues in the part of the world that you pay taxes in?

I don't really care, but ex-pat patriotism can be rather irksome.

 

[danny la rouge]

Bowie, Connery and anyone else is entitled to an opinion and to express it. It seems a little odd that Bowie should still talk about "us" when he hasn't lived in the UK for decades, but I suppose people identify with the place they're from. "Scotland stay with us" isn't exactly a perspicacious analysis, but he can say it if he likes.

Although, to be with him, we'd all need to move to Manhattan. Perhaps we could do a house swap holiday with him and Iman or something.

 

[DotCommunist]

first we take Manhattan. AND THEN BERLIN

 

[danny la rouge]

Trilogy.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I didn't really have a strong opinion on this before. Mildly against it out of a general dislike of borders. But now pretty much everything said by the "No" camp is irritating me, some of it highly so, particularly the unedifying sight of Labour lining up behind Osborne. Even Bowie's irrelevant little tweet is a bit annoying.

 

[DotCommunist]

I am for it because the breakup of a 500 year old political union while under the governance of the fucking tories will be a stain on them and their ridiculouse throne worship

 

[Teaboy]

I didn't really have a strong opinion on this before. Mildly against it out of a general dislike of borders. But now pretty much everything said by the "No" camp is irritating me, some of it highly so, particularly the unedifying sight of Labour lining up behind Osborne. Even Bowie's irrelevant little tweet is a bit annoying.

Yeah its cringing, so fucking needy. The Westminster lot should really just shut the fuck up if they really want Scotland to stay, every time one of them opens their mouth the Yes campaign wins another chunk of votes.

Personally I just want it all to end, I'm sick of Salmond being on the TV all the time playing the wee plucky Scot standing up to the big bad bullies.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I am for it because the breakup of a 500 year old political union while under the governance of the fucking tories will be a stain on them and their ridiculouse throne worship

Rounding to the nearest half-millennium?

I have growing sympathy for this position.

 

[danny la rouge]

Rounding to the nearest half-millennium?

It just feels that long.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

When Scotland leaves, the UK will need a new name.

It will still be a union, but will no longer be the old union. So it will be the former-United-Kingdom Union, or the fUK U.

 

[2hats]

Captain. Only Bones addressed Kirk as 'Jim'. Spock called him Captain

*coughs*