Rochdale grooming trial: Nine men jailed

[frogwoman]

Jesus

 

[butchersapron]

white catholics do it. Calm down

 

[Mrs Magpie]

...just to say I've noticed this in another similar case, but in Carlisle...the police really are complicit in the sense they don't seem to care about vulnerable troubled girls, nor understand that they are allowed recourse via the law...

The jury heard that one girl complained to police about him persistently harassing her in 2008, three years before he was arrested, but gave up when no action was taken.[./quote]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-18056504

 

[bamalama]

"The little sluts"
It wasn't actually me he said this to but Swarthy. I don't think he'd make controversial remarks to me as much.

Bloke in cornershop needs a slap

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Personally, I'd much rather poultry wasn't stunned before slaughter, because the method most often used (the electrified water bath) isn't that efficient, and a fifth to a quarter of the poultry it's used on aren't stunned. However, economics dictates that as individual rather than waterbath-assisted production-line slaughter be used, up to 25% of the poultry processed experiences severe pain and disorientation before death.

Personally I'd rather animals weren't slaughtered en masse for human consumption at all, but if they are to be I'd rather effectual methods of pain reduction were used over less effective ones and I'd rather less effective methods were used rather than no methods at all.

 

[_angel_]

Bloke in cornershop needs a slap

He didn't use those exact words to be honest but that was the conclusion.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

...just to say I've noticed this in another similar case, but in Carlisle...the police really are complicit in the sense they don't seem to care about vulnerable troubled girls, nor understand that they are allowed recourse via the law...

Yep. And it's only likely to get worse in the years to come. Record numbers of children are being taken into care at the moment, following the moral panic of the baby p case, mostly. But the state is and probably always will be an unloving, uncaring, often negligent guardian.

 

[bamalama]

He didn't use those exact words to be honest but that was the conclusion.

Lets hope he doesn't have any daughters then

 

[_angel_]

Lets hope he doesn't have any daughters then

He does actually. Swarthy seems to think he doesn't like young white people, I don't know, I've heard him moan about pakistanis as well. I just think he doesn't like people esp young people and kids full stop actually. I can imagine he has probably got some racist shit off people in the past maybe ..

 

[Joe Reilly]

Eight Leicester City footballers are in custody in Spain today over allegations of sexual assault against three women, police said.
A ninth player has been released on bail, police in Cartagena said.
The allegations against the players, who were on a warm weather training break at the exclusive La Manga resort, are the latest scandal to rock football.
The alleged victims were said to have been attacked in the hotel Los Belones in Cartagena.
In a statement police said: "Agents of the judicial police, of the Cartagena division of the national police, arrested nine people, all members of English football club Leicester City, in relation to a sexual assault alleged by three women."
Women 'found to have injuries'
Police said the women had claimed the players went by force into their room and that they were sexually assaulted by some of them.
The women had been intending to return to Germany but were persuaded by police to remain in the country to be interviewed.
The alleged victims were found to have suffered injuries to various parts of their body when examined by doctors at Alicante general hospital and police doctors, police said.
The three women gave the police a bracelet, which was apparently broken by one of the aggressors, as well as torn underpants with blood, they added.
They separately identified by photograph the footballers alleged to have carried out the assaults, establishing the level of involvement of each one of them.
The nine arrested have not been named.
Sexual assault charges
Four of the players face allegations of sexual assault, and one of them of assault, according to the statement from the Spanish authorities.
Four were arrested for sexual assault and breaking and entering, one for assault and breaking and entering, and three for breaking and entering and leaving a crime scene without offering assistance.
The ninth was arrested for leaving a crime scene without offering assistance.
A police spokesman said they appeared before a judge this morning before being taken into judicial custody.
The players were first arrested yesterday after the allegations were made on Monday - when the incident was alleged to have taken place.
Club 'co-operating'
The rest of the squad cut short the week-long trip and flew back to England last night though club officials stressed they had not been thrown out of their hotel.
Leicester City issued a statement which said: "The club is aware that a number of players have been interviewed by Spanish police as a result of alleged incidents which took place during a club training camp in Spain.
"The club is co-operating fully with the authorities in their investigations but, as these investigations are still ongoing, is not in a position to make any further comment at this stage."
The club's chief executive Tim Davies is understood to have flown out to Spain to join manager Micky Adams, who has remained with the players.

There's no connection between the two cases. If memory serves all were either acquitted or not charged. The 'victims' as it turns out were not children. They were not raped. They were not prostituted. They were already in the life so to speak. So what's your point.

 

[Ranbay]

There's no connection between the two cases. If memory serves all were either acquitted or not charged. The 'victims' as it turns out were not children. They were not raped. They were not prostituted. They were already in the life so to speak. So what's your point.

read the thread.

 

[Joe Reilly]

read the thread.

Read it. What's your point?

 

[Ranbay]

none.

 

[Pickman's model]

none.

 

[Pickman's model]

Ymu

No apology of your accusations of racism? Quelle surprise.

 

[Ranbay]

well for anyone who read the thred it's clear why i posted what i posted. It's not fucking rocket surgery.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Ymu

No apology of your accusations of racism? Quelle surprise.

She hasn't accused anybody of being a racist.

 

[Pickman's model]

She hasn't accused anybody of being a racist.

Spymaster thinks she has, I think she has and I wouldn't be surprised if love detective thought she has. Plus she's insinuated i'm racist on this very thread.

 

[ymu]

Scraping the bottom of the barrel there, Pickman's.

 

[Pickman's model]

Scraping the bottom of the barrel there, Pickman's.

i suppose you want to know what colour i am before you know how to respond.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's a bit much to expect the police to be any better than the rest of society, but we still can give those Pakistani's hell for not being any better than the rest of us.

I'm not saying that you are arguing this, but it is my point about this whole racist diversionary tactic. Unless it can be shown that men from conservative Muslim communities are disproportionately responsible for sexual crime, then trying to address it by examining their culture in isolation does nothing but promote racist attitudes whilst letting misogyny in society as a whole off the hook completely.

what racist diversionary tactic did i employ? i simply said the police were shit. and as far as i can see the first paragraph in your reply is saying i'm coming across racist, the first sentence of the second paragraph says you're not arguing this, but then you say that i (and it is me, because you've quoted me) am employing a 'racist diversionary tactic'. how do you expect me to take this comment on an innocuous post? in good spirits?

perhaps you can answer now what i asked some time ago, why did you post this?

 

[Citizen66]

I thought she was talking generally, rather than specifically at you.

 

[Pickman's model]

I thought she was talking generally, rather than specifically at you.

she quoted me. which is generally a sign that someone is replying to the person quoted.

 

[Citizen66]

she quoted me. which is generally a sign that someone is replying to the person quoted.

Or adding to what they have said.

 

[treelover]

See now the old school way was to get them in the care homes, you didnt even need to go pick them up or ply them with drugs and booze...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/641819.stm



none of this stuff is new.

One of my older friends who was a foster mother to tens of children helped break that story....

 

[Spymaster]

Or adding to what they have said.

There's no fucking doubt whatsoever what she was insinuating with me, see post #565.

She's also avoided answering Danny la Rouge's post at #501 because it'd be impossible for her to do so and maintain her bigoted position.

She's a deceitful fuckwit. It's her MO.

 

[Citizen66]

There's no fucking doubt whatsoever what she was insinuating with me, see post #565.

She's also avoided answering Danny la Rouge's post at #501 because it'd be impossible for her to do so and maintain her bigoted position.

She's a deceitful fuckwit. It's her MO.

Yes, her post to you was on dodgy ground. But I was commenting on the post to pickmans.

 

[danny la rouge]

I thought she was talking generally, rather than specifically at you.

Some of the racism on this thread is appalling.

 

[Pickman's model]

Or adding to what they have said.

if you're adding to what someone's said you don't change what they've posted to make it sound all racist and you refer to what they've posted, in my case i said the police were an obstacle to rape convictions and i didn't bring race into it at all. instead there's some nonsense about racist diversionary tactics in response to my post, which doesn't imo add to the post rather aims her response at me.

 

[ymu]

what racist diversionary tactic did i employ? i simply said the police were shit. and as far as i can see the first paragraph in your reply is saying i'm coming across racist, the first sentence of the second paragraph says you're not arguing this, but then you say that i (and it is me, because you've quoted me) am employing a 'racist diversionary tactic'. how do you expect me to take this comment on an innocuous post? in good spirits?

perhaps you can answer now what i asked some time ago, why did you post this?

Words > phrases > sentences > paragraphs > arguments

You need to be able to retain information if you want to be able to make sense of more than half a sentence. In this case, you need to be able to recall "I'm not saying that you are arguing this" whilst you are processing the rest of the paragraph.

Or, you're not actually as stupid as you make out and are in fact just an insecure attention-seeking little prick. Or both. Probably.