Garfield: "Not committed to the GreenLine.": Neither is anyone else in either side. A handful give it lipservice but do you see any "Palestinians" seeking to make Jerualem, ALL of it, an International City, do you?
In any event, that is neither here nor there, I do accept the Greenline with the noted exeption. I use the term GreenLine because it is easier than I)listing al border points, and II) Scanning a map with my personl views added onto it.
Funny though that even on subjects like this you need contention.
"East Jerusalem is and always will be Arab.": Obviously not. If you wish to engage in fantasy, so be it. No Israeli Govt. can ever do that because Israel will then have a Civil War. That is how strongly the issue is looked at...not to mention that this means that you toodo not accept the GreenLine because it is supposed to be neither Jewish nor Arab but International.
Jews will never again allow Arabs to literaly defecate on our Holiest shrine. They had a huge lavaratory attached t the wall, they allowed Arab Christains to raise pigs on the short section out of sight of al Haram.
They stole the Mount, then had a chance to hve the whole sector under Ross but rejected it so the fantasy is over.
"Not supporting the divison of Jerusalem will mean the conflict is never solved.": Simply look at the Charters and Platforms of the 20 odd internal Arab militant groups and think again on whether a divison will mean a thing.
We divide the city, put all the Holy sites in the hands of Arabs who hav always abused that control, and then what? Hudna at best? For how long? How much pewace did W/D give us?
Yet, we gave it and we will give the whole land I mentioned since my personal view happens to match perfectly tht of my govt. I am sure that will provoke stupdity but there it is.
I believe in the Kadimah Platform.
"I support Israel's right to steal": Look at your history boks Garfeild. What is HaKotel? The Wall? An Arab shrine? Ever notice that it sits 100 odd feet in some places UNDER the Haram? That that does not even include 30 to 40 feet buried by rebuilding so how long do Jews have a claim on that Mountain and how long do Arabs?
Arabs are usurpers, occupiers. Read your history. How Omar looked at Sephulcre and ecided to usurp both prior mono. religions.How he then had the story bout Muhammed dying in Hejaz but flying on his horse to Jerusalem and landing on the Mountain, and then ascendng into Paradise where he saw the Prophets sitting around. Whatever.
Only fools believe Arab propaganda if they have availed themselves to the truth.
Truth is, even Arabs should shi% on that garbage (here comes the Fatwa) because in truth, if you even read Arabic, you will see that the Qu'ran says (Muhammed) landed in the FARTHEST PLACE (emphasis is mine)." It of course does not say "Jerusalem," or anything at all remotely like that.
Why should they control Jewish Hoy Sites? By my taking faith in the MODIFIED (as it is also known in Israel by the way) I give complete trust for Arab Muslims to control the Cave and every other Jewish site on the so called "WB," to give them total control (actually they already hold nominal control since the Waqf - not to be confused with the theological concept of Waqf, the word in this sense simple means 'Islamic Authority,' and Israeli Govt. funded organisation which has control over all Islamic holy Places,etc) of the Mountain?
Going by history, they have no right, Going by past performance, they have no right, Going by Jewish theology (although Israel does not use theological reasoning as a secular nation), they have no right. NO RIGHT.
IF the UN, under stable and strong leadership floated a scheme for a truly Corpus Separatum, ensuring its objectivity by offering a truly rotating form of control with truly diverse nations at the hemlm for specific terms, then fine, let us do it.
In reality the UN is an acccomplice to murder, murder of Israelis (not in the political sense although this too is quite truye but in the literl and criminal sense). The Un which brought Israel into existence and mandated that it was tobe a Jewish Nation, i.e. Zionist, then equated Zionism with Racism from an Arab authored mid 70s General Assembly Resolution.
In fairness, those Gen. Ass. Resolutions are nothing more than briefs and the UN does nothing but provide a medium for their creation. but then we have the Durban Conference, the UN Human Rights nonsense, and so on.
Then we also have internal UN problems like corruption on a truly vast scale, crminal acts incuding promoting prostitution through their personel, accomplice to terro by allowing use of their UN marked and designated vehichles,etc.,etc.,etc. so that I do not see that Jerusalem could ever be a united and happy city unless by dominion by ONE NATION.
Israel, since taking control of it in 67 has allowed people of all faiths to worship freely, has allowed each faith almost truly total control over their holy places...even when directly hrting those of the Jewish Faith...such as the Wall Excavations, which the waqf was able to shut down post haste upon discovery.
"Building in the 'Settlements' has not ceased as claimed.": Yes, it most certainly has. The only construction going on is repairing and natural expansion such as allowing an additonal room for a family with a new child,etc. In fact, any expansions like that that have not been thorouglhy permitted are treated no different than illegal Arab buildings, they are demolished often with riots, etc.
