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So long as (a) those views are honestly held and (b) the people putting them forward are willing actually to discuss them - which cannot be done unless (c) they are prepared to answer the question "You claimed that X is a fact. You know this how?".

Otherwise, their "contributions" are, at best, just noise.

This is a very valid point. To be fair I'm flabbergasted that people can post what they want and never have to qualify it. However if that is the case (which clearly it is) I do think posters should be allowed to pursue with rigour answers to any claims made.
 
More fans. Grand. I am ashamed that threads like this even exist, almost as shamed for my bending so low as to post in them. As if the forum had anything to do with me.

Hate me? Like me? Whatever. If I am so disturbing to anyone, I would AGAIN ask that they put me on Ignore and let the grownups talk.

that's not a very grown up response to a situation is it.

one expects an adult in life to be able to affirm or deny their beliefs opinions and facts with evidence when so challengened and not to be afronted when people ask for such. It's part of a thing called responsiblity. Something adults take seriously.

You have made several claims which others are dismissing as being inaccurate false and untrue. you further attempt to add authentisity to those claims by stating this is widely know as if one were foolish to believe popular myth. When challenging any convention it is the first tool in the amoury to have solid cross refferenceable proof before stating something as fact rather than hunch, feeling or fabrication.

So as you are claimng people who were there to be unreliable and they doctored photographs to give credence to their version of events this should be documented.

And in order for anyone to give crediblity to such a story there would need to be proof.

You have repeatdly said you will provide proof of this wild and exagreated claim but have failed to do so. Natrually the adult fashion to deal with this is to ask you when ever you re raise the sentiment to provide proof or cease making the claim.

as you have provided zero proof on this matter.

the claim is now dismissed as fiction, unless such time that the evidence appears.
 
I think this has in fact (surprisingly enough) turned out to be a call-out thread, despite requests for broader expansion, and has also brought up the old "you cussed my mum" / "i never cussed your mum you liar" argument again, which may be a classic of political thought and one of those questions pondered by theorists through the ages but which I thought we'd put to bed.

Might I suggest, yet again, perhaps with a greater degree of emphasis this time, that we have an end to said accusations of mum-cussing, without it being inferred that I support mum-cussing and wish to cover up the crimes of mum-cussers, or am trying to close down debate regarding disgraceful false accusations of mum-cussing?

Might I also suggest that there is, in fact, no "but he talks shit" defence for call-out threads, and that if someone does not provide a satisfactory answer it might be better to mark them as untrustworthy and remind other readers of this should the issue concerned come up in other threads? Rather than chase them around saying "you still haven't answered my question in post 12589 of thread 239904 in the ME forum"? Because that disrupts things for other people. Nobody actually has to answer a question "properly".

Given that interest has been expressed in the topics by unconnected parties I'll leave it for a bit, but. You know.
I personally think this is the worst solution for the whole thing...

would you allow a fake counsellour to continue to look after people or a fake doctor or a fake laywer etc etc

then why when someone is claiming to be a defacto source of authentic informaiton on the situation would you allow them to make false claims without challenging them.

they aren't the expert in the field they are claiming to be posting from.

no one is forced to take on a mantle or responsilbity for wider issues but if they do they have a responsilbity to do so honestly.

this isn't being done.

in the past people have been banned for less and this person regularlly disrupts any decent topic of discussion with their swathes of propogahnda cut and paste identikit responses.
 
So long as (a) those views are honestly held and (b) the people putting them forward are willing actually to discuss them - which cannot be done unless (c) they are prepared to answer the question "You claimed that X is a fact. You know this how?".

Otherwise, their "contributions" are, at best, just noise.
Yes they are but opinions are opinions and people should have a right to express them. If they cannot back up their opinions with reasonable answers then of course, people will see those opinions as "noise" as you put it. But it works both ways, what you say above should in no way translate into giving an answer you like to back up their opinions and sadly to say, a lot of people in here live by that rule...
 
This is a very valid point. To be fair I'm flabbergasted that people can post what they want and never have to qualify it. However if that is the case (which clearly it is) I do think posters should be allowed to pursue with rigour answers to any claims made.
Yea on that thread! Not on every other thread somebody posts on! If somebody disagrees with something I say in this forum I don't expect to be hounded about it while explaining to everyone how corrupt West Ham and the Premier League are do I?!

The fact is, rach18 doesn't seem to be able to back up what he's claimed. Big deal. I've been in that situation many a time (and many a time I've done damage limitation by not quite backing down to save a bit of face! :oops:). You've proved your point, everyone else knows that, just because one person won't agree with you hardly makes any difference when they only repeat the claims when provoked into doing so.
 
To be perfectly honest, I couldn't give a shit either way whether you are right or the rest of the rabble are right. All I care is that every time a thread starts where you comment a load of people come and ruin it.
You've got it ass-backwards. There isn't a thread on Is/Pal here that doesn't become centred on Rach's fascist-tinged brand of Zionism. He's a consistent liar, fails to ever back up his assertions with references and often twists the words of people he discusses with his inability to use the quote function.

Having said that, he performs the role of useful idiot. I know that myself and others on here have sharpened their arguments and knowledge immeasurably by combatting his nonsense. His output is profuse and he obviously has a wide familiarity with the subject matter. But at the same time it is of such poor quality and lacking in depth and evidence that he's really good to work out on, at least until his inability to really engage gets boring
 
Yes they are but opinions are opinions and people should have a right to express them. If they cannot back up their opinions with reasonable answers then of course, people will see those opinions as "noise" as you put it. But it works both ways, what you say above should in no way translate into giving an answer you like to back up their opinions and sadly to say, a lot of people in here live by that rule...

it's entirely different though in this specific case isn't it they have made significant claims and specific slanders and have stated they will provide proof of such via real cold hard evidence.

to then refuse or obfiscate, flip flop, stammer, hesitate and be eviasive is i'm afriad insufficent.

It's the tactic of a sulky teen who doesn't want to do the washing up...

It's has no place in these debates.

It isn't after all opinion they are offering up but supposed facts which fly in the face of percived and accepted convention. therefore the burden proof is actually greater in order to overcome both opposition to the new informaiton by those who have vested intrestes in the staus quo and also to correct the intial error.

If you aren't preparred to make a stand of the words you say then you cannot be considered to have conviction in anything you do...
 
You've got it ass-backwards. There isn't a thread on Is/Pal here that doesn't become centred on Rach's fascist-tinged brand of Zionism. He's a consistent liar, fails to ever back up his assertions with references and often twists the words of people he discusses with his inability to use the quote function.
People on U75 tend to get angry when confronted with people who have differing views to themselves, especially when they consider themselves one of the more established posters. I know this from personal experiences with certain posters on here who latch onto something I've supposedly said about 5 years ago and simply make references to that rather than respond to what I've actually said in a post. I think the same happens with rach18. This "3 claims" thing has been going on for nearly a year and a half and most threads rach18 posts in somebody brings it up and calls him liar etc etc and imo the reason that happens is because certain posters are unwilling/incapable of conversing in a pleasant manner with people who do not share their own world view, and you don't get somebody as far away from the general consensus of U75 than rach18! While you obviously know more about rach18's posting habits than me, and I don't have any reason to doubt what you say about him, I just think there are better more sensible ways to go about things - eg if he makes a claim and doesn't back it up, you should assume right there it is false (as others will) and leave it at that. Or obviously put him on ignore! But if you keep responding to his posts without addressing the points he makes, false or otherwise, that doesn't look good on you either and stifles the debate.

Now I'm not having a go at you in particular, or anyone for that matter, but this 3 claims thing has gone on long enough and imo has contributed to the decline of Middle East. It says "POLITE debate and discussion" for a reason! The 3 claims are false, of that I'm positive, so unless rach18 himself brings them up I don't think there is any need to bring them into any other threads because loads of people are extremely interested in debating what happens in the Middle East but are put off by this macho cheast beating that goes on in here as people try to score points off each other
 
In many ways I agree with CyberRose on this - I think it's important that rach is challenged because he's a liar and a murderous racist. However, it should not be at the cost of the important discussions in this forum. Perhaps a campaign to stick him on ignore might work better?
 
it's entirely different though in this specific case isn't it they have made significant claims and specific slanders and have stated they will provide proof of such via real cold hard evidence.
Yea well he hasn't and he won't because the claims are false. You know that, I know that, and everybody else knows that, so what exactly is the point in carrying this on for nearly a year and a half? What are we achieving?

In boxing, you can win on a knock out or you can win on points. In here, you can "win" if the person states you are right (the knock out), but you can also win on points if your arguments are simply better than your opponent's (the points). Too many people on U75 just care about the KO...
 
Yea well he hasn't and he won't because the claims are false. You know that, I know that, and everybody else knows that, so what exactly is the point in carrying this on for nearly a year and a half? What are we achieving?

In boxing, you can win on a knock out or you can win on points. In here, you can "win" if the person states you are right (the knock out), but you can also win on points if your arguments are simply better than your opponent's (the points). Too many people on U75 just care about the KO...

quite right after all David Irving should be aloowed to continue repeating his hateful lies despite everyone knowing he is lying, after all i know it you know it everyone knows it so why carry it on it mean it's been over 60 years...

too many people care about the KO...

you get the point...

no doubt...
 
quite right after all David Irving should be aloowed to continue repeating his hateful lies despite everyone knowing he is lying
But regarding these particular "lies", he doesn't repeat them unless provoked into doing so by those chasing him around the forum, does he? If he says something you consider untrue, or disagree with, then nobody will have a problem with people who want to argue against what he said. The problem is when people don't argue against what he says and instead argue against something he said 18 months ago...
 
After 542 views and no clear evidence to back up the original claims I would now request that admin lock this thread. Its crystal clear that the 3 original claims cannot be substantiated & they were infact incorrect claims.

The originator of those claims had plenty of opportunity to provide the evidence in this thread as well as within the last year or so but has chosen to not do so. Other forum users have also not been able to provide that evidence requested so its fair to say the claims were incorrect.

The matter is, as far as I'm concerned, now closed.
 
But regarding these particular "lies", he doesn't repeat them unless provoked into doing so by those chasing him around the forum, does he? If he says something you consider untrue, or disagree with, then nobody will have a problem with people who want to argue against what he said. The problem is when people don't argue against what he says and instead argue against something he said 18 months ago...

the problem is that people did argue against what was said quite vocally however we were told by the perosn amking the claims that proof would be posted thus removing the imputus of the hotly contested issue.

as no proof has been provided once let alone to reassert those accusations ever again the repeatition of them in any form is offensive, if only be the rigours of debate requiring one to acknowledge the challenge to the information posted and respond or retract.

If this is true of all other aspect particularlly when the poster in question has on several occasions inferred others are lying distorting reality and simply uninformed about the issue of debate. moreover subsiquent claims have been ignored as they make further and further fantasitical claims as to their origin their where abouts their ability to publish simple things such as a hyperlink. etc etc etc.

It's called wriggling and it has no place on this subject of discussion particularlly when making specific slanderous comments about an involved party with in the wider conflict.

If i where to say oxfam lied there aren't nearly as many people dying in afria as they inflate figures to show as a statement. people would naturaly dispute this and say got any proof...

If i then continued the debate without providing anything it taints everything i say as a result.

If after being reminded repeatdly that i was still not positng up information requested it would appear to be disengenious. If after this period of time it would appear untruthful...
 
If after this period of time it would appear untruthful...
You're learning!

And when it appears untruthful...then what?

Is it really necessary to keep bringing the subject up everytime a poster makes a completely unrelated comment?

I don't think so

If said poster makes other comments with no evidence/argument, then people will learn to simply pass over what is said, and that will leave everyone else to debate the topic without getting sidetracked by vendettas and personal crusades...
 
it is not possible to pass over the poster when significant amounts of posts text and content are constnatly being dragged out which bind like string around a bicycle wheel the argument to the narrow poster defined parameters and the seemingly endless cut and paste identikit responses the deliberate misuse of the quote function the endless attacks on fellow posters credibilty; all of which emminate from one source.

It's a bit like saying don't buy the expensive stero you know what people round here are like and then saying well what did you expect when it get's nicked...

the psoter is claiming to be a defacto authority on the issue. They are not.

Unmasking this charade is in the context of the situation half the battle.

We are talking about someone supporting a regieme which actively sponsors state terrorist actions and has the support of the USA in doing so.

you won't find any love lost for those who bang on about peodphiles rights. this is as serious in terms of defending the indefensable. State sponsored and exicuted murders.

any which way you cut it the complaint should not be addressed to those objecting, of which there are a significant number but to there single person who is making it up as they go along, and being disengenious disruptive and offensive into the bargin.

on a personal note it irks me that freinds of miine who have largley been through hell supporting the situation of palestinians and have set up one ofthe most sucessful peaceful orintated solidarity groups in the world can be slandered in such a manner by some illinformed oik because they support the rituals of blood/racecal superiorty.

Your comments might be more worthy if the situation were about eastenders but this poster is excusing daily murder by a state, that kind of apologist isn't worth defending ever.
 
/rose: You are absolutely tight, at least half the threads here are derailed because of nonsense like the idea represented in this thread. I also want you to know that I feel you that you are 100% in wanting multi -faceted areas since this not an IPS or Stormfront board, but a board that's forum is supposed to represent adult discussion of adult subjects.

"Admit it if wrong": Oh, absolutely, have done more than that in the past. Except on this issue I am correct. I do not look at it as an exercise in building self esteem, or macho dic& swinging.

On ISM and Ms. Corrie, as well as the UVDA/Capt. R. issue(s,) both directly involve the IDF, and organisation to which I literally and fully gave my life to for 24 years. Within th organisation we followed both stories the way some people follow sports teams.

The public at large was also taken up with both stories, especially the case of Capt.R. because of what the ramafications would be had he actually acted in error or worse.

"English Sources." Not necessarily on either count but can certainly see why anyone would think that. It is very basic common sense (the idea you expressed). In reality, find missing pieces all the time.

I this case, because you are raising the point, I will do my best to prove it on some level. Time frame wise I would certainly like to do so before Monday (traveling again), but will not lock myself into a time frame as did before and thus initiate another round of nastiness.

When I have it, I will let the forum know.
 
Lapop: "Good to have a multi faceted forum as long as...Views are sincere.": Why would you think mine are not, because they disagree with yours?


"...And the person expressing those views is willing to answer whee he or she found them, or the reason for them.": I already did, many times. You are intending, I believe, to ask about sources. Big difference. Furthermore, why would everyone rely on internet sources? Why should they?

Finally, I think that anyone regardless of how your 2 points related to them, should be allowed to speak their mind without being shouted own by partisan bullies. If you then find the views disturbing, worthless, or laughable then just ignore the poster....if that is your wish. To ride , ride, and ride proves and accomplishes nothing.
 
Garfield: "Rachamim reportedly said he would provide proof on this matte and has not.": Yes, said t to one person, who insulted me from their first post and whom I continued to try and engage in an adult and meaningful way. When the answers were not forthcoming in what they viewed as a "timely fashion," it went from insult to injury as the saying goes.

I have however, in this thread just a while ago agree to provide a source on one of the 3 questions to another poster, one whom has been able to take a somewhat objective stance and act maturely...Talk about "acting like an adult."

"Claiming top be a defacto authentic source of info.": WHAT? Are you serious? Why would you EVER think that? I do not resent anyone but myself. I do not work for the govt and am no longer in the army. I might very well have access to things you do not, still having a family there, and close mates, but I have never claimed that I was a source of anything other than my own opinion.

"Disrupted.": By offering my own opinion? By posting without agreeing with YOUR views As if your open insults do not disrupt?

"People have been banned for less.": Problem though is that as you should have seen when Mono initiated that little thread on banning me, noone could produce a true reason why it should be done. Ironically, it was shortly aftew that Moono itself was banned. Take it to heart. Your thirst for "Blood" might produce results you never imagined. I like to believe that such open hatred like yours might one day be banned.

Grandma is correct on one thing though...Basically all I have done in THIS thread is try to defend myself and Grandma does not realise that her/his comment says alot more than she.he thinks it does.

Why should anyone have to defend themself to a bunch of anonymous people? Furthermore, why should threads like this be allowed to exist? The person cannot get me to pay attention to them or their rants in most any other thread so they begin one like this. So silly and sad.
 
Listen. You've been shown up to be a big fat liar rachamim18, using bluster and unsourced information to cover up a lack of supporting proof. There's no chance of you claiming the moral high ground here.
 
Right, I've sent the following email to Channel 2 seeing that they along with Ilana Dayan got sued by "Captain R":

My email to Channel 2 said:
Dear Sir/Madam,

I have been trying to find out the outcome of the libel case brought against Channel 2 and Ilana Dayan-Orbach by "Captain R" as reported in the following article:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=733743

Unfortunately I cannot speak Hebrew and cannot find any mention of it in the English speaking press. Do you know if this trial has finished or is it still ongoing?

Thank you for your help,

xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx(my name)
UK
Hopefully someone at their end can confirm one way or another, I shall let you know if I get a reply...
 
Garfield: "Cut and paste.": honestly do not even know hot to do any such thing. I am 41 years old and am self taught on the computer. My generation did not have them when we were young. ALL my posts are typed by hand and primarily consist of point by pint responses to already posted threads.

Rose: "Grandma proved his or her point.": I do not see how. Unless the point is that I am a liar, or some other open insult.

I am sorry that you see it as case of my trying not to lose face. If that were true, why would I even post in this forum let alone site? I simply do not feel the need to oblige people who verbally attack me in atrocious ways even after I have honoured them and committed myself to providing them with info.

You would spend time trying to please me if I called you atrocious names for 18 months? I hope not. THAT would be too sad. In any event, I have already committed myself to providing YOU with one item off that list so when that happens you might see things in a different light.

I do not see this site as an ego booster, or buster for that matter.

Spin: "Rachamim never fails to not back up assertions.":pretty sad since did just that in a current thread where 2 people asked me in an adult manner.

You complain about my lack of veracity and then call me a "useful idiot," thus perfectly illustrating just why I do not bother with you, an ohers like you.

Actually, not true, I even respond to you point by point even when you include such open insults as long you keep them expletive free in an attempt to keep discourse going a oppose to climbing soapboxes just hear yourself

Garfield: "Has no place in these debates.": As if any person wishes to devote a person holding the same exact view.

Rose: "The 3 things are false, and Rose is positive of this.": Funny though Rse that you did not realise the power in your own words. Earlier you raised a great point when I correctly pointed out that your ability to locate sources is hampered by your total lack of Hebrew. Your valid response was that you had found an English version of an Israeli periodical that had made a report about the ongoing libel trial, he one here I claim the producer , Orbach, lost. You said that when you looked into that article it occurred to you that it s supiscious (paraphrasing you of course) because "why would a paper cover such an important trial and fail to cover any more of it,"especially the verdict where she lost the case. Right?

So, if she won, or the case was somehow thrown out,do you doubt for a second that it would have been reported as well? Fact is, you yourself did ot find anything.

I think we can both agree that Orbach was sued for libel (along with UVDA and Channel 2). If she was sued, there was an ending. That you failed to find any does not negate my claim that it ended as I claim it did.

Bluestreak: "Rachamim s a murderous racist.":Without getting into a discussion on how one Semite engages in racism against another Semite, I ant to point out that yo are as mundane as can be. Do you not realise that you failed to include "baby murdering Zionist and Colonialist pig?" How will folks ever like me here if they do not know my true nature? Please be more specific next time.
 
I can't speak Hebrew and I also have no idea how long libel trials usually last. Maybe you could help me out by translating some Hebrew links for me?
 
Tarannau: "Rachamim has been shown to be a big fat liar.: Wrong. I am neither big nor fat. I am of average height and almost perfect physical condition if you discount my outer body. The liar part? How novel but that is completely up to you.

Garfield: Again with the "defacto authority" claim? Yawn.

"Friends of yours who have set up one of the most peaceful groups in the world are being slandered, as in SIM.": That was a peach, a real gem. The group that says they accept both non-violent confrontation AND any means necessary to acomplish their goal? Suicide Bombers are freedom fighters?

Th Bet'l'chem office was found to be harbouring a wanted terrorist with blood on his hands, Sukeeyah of PIJ,who had run into their office, after which they immediately locked their door and refused to open them for an IDF CT Unit? When said door was removed they did not find a weapons cache (by the way, it was a much more lucrative find than the 2 AKs and one pistol the IDF released to the public)?

Is this the ISM who has participated in actions with and publicly allied itself with HAMAS,PIJ and other fun groups via the NIF? The ISM did not publicly glorify and commit themselves as Human Shields not only to the Bet'l'chem Nativity gunmen but the Ze'evi 5 as well? Keep going on shall we?

"Blood and racial superiority.": Ironic is it not? Here you are, in a thread chasing me yet again for not offering 3 sources, and having chased me like the person who authored this thead and here you are still unable to show me proof that I am a person who believe in racial superiority?"
 
Rose: I sincerely applaud our iniative n emailing Channe 2. I wll still keep my end up, HOPFULLY within the stated time frame. I leave Monday but will be in America a day or two later, and once I do my tasks I will see to it as best can. Hopefully though, can get to it here, before I go.

Anyway, do not be too disappointed, or gleeful, if your email is unsucessful or denies it since they are now again embroiled in a trial for the same charge, same producer (Dayan is her maiden name, her name is actually Orbach now) and they might feel you are a foreign or domestic journalists among other things. I think I will be able to provide impeccable source but you never know,maybe Channel 2 will be open...

Damn I miss the days when we had 8 hours of black and white TV, 2 channels, one Arabic and one Hebrew and none manipulated and destroyed peoples' lives to get rating.

On my translating. Well of course I would easily oblige but you know, especially with your belief that I am at least concealing the truth, what would be the point? I could, if your rationale held true, just be telling you anything or at the very least changing nuances and untranslatable words and phrases, right?

Still, of course if you ever need Hebrew translated I will be happy to help .I believe for some reason that you already speak and read Arabic but if not, also feel free to ask.
 
Firstly can i implore you to use the multipul quote function from now on this disapline or even using the quotation tool as is is beyond the simple ability of a 4 year old. for anyone else it's simply inexcuseable.

having to wade though your tirades in order to attempt to answer them is painful without it and won't be attempted again.

never the less i will attempt this:

Garfield: "Rachamim reportedly said he would provide proof on this matte and has not.": Yes, said t to one person, who insulted me from their first post and whom I continued to try and engage in an adult and meaningful way. When the answers were not forthcoming in what they viewed as a "timely fashion," it went from insult to injury as the saying goes.

their actions/insults still prompted you to post i will provide proof later.

there was no obligation for you to say this and as has been point out no auspices where this would or could be enforced you were offering to be forth coming and now you are being disengenious.

you haven't even had the presence of mind to say actually i can't find sources for this however i beleive it happens as i have stated. you haven't even said i can't be arsed with this nonsense i have better things to do with my time. you have however repeatly when asked said i will provide proof later.

that's a commitment on you part. one you are able to recant at any time but have seen fit not to. again stating you will provide further proof.

It's you undertaking this obligation no one is thrusting it upon you.

you don't therefore get ablsoved of the comment until you have done one of the following.
  • prefferably cite your orignial sources with translation (this is an english speaking board after all)
  • or say fuck it can't be arsed and retract
  • or retract fully as subsiquently it turns out you were acting on incorrect information.

None of it implies or suggest guilt or deceit on you behalf by being adult enough to act.

what does is consistantly saying i will provide proof. and then failing to do so.


I have however, in this thread just a while ago agree to provide a source on one of the 3 questions to another poster, one whom has been able to take a somewhat objective stance and act maturely...Talk about "acting like an adult."

good then you'll have no objection to acting as laid out above then either.


"Claiming top be a defacto authentic source of info.": WHAT? Are you serious? Why would you EVER think that? I do not resent anyone but myself. I do not work for the govt and am no longer in the army. I might very well have access to things you do not, still having a family there, and close mates, but I have never claimed that I was a source of anything other than my own opinion.

you claim people don't understand becauser they don't live there. in fact truth be told you don't live their either do you. your family might live there but you don't.

you dismiss other peoples accounts of their expeirnce in both the OT and GAZA as they are clearly anti israli and when this fails either Judeophobic or self hating dependant on which camp they fall into.

You have set the bar/standard for how you are treated here with your reactions and insults (both personally and tbh to the intelligence) of your fellow posters.

You make up constant excuses without listening to others or engauging with debate on the level of the debate.

you seem to think that your swathes of text have more value if they are bombastic and verbose but in terms of content per word they are utterly bereft.

"Disrupted.": By offering my own opinion? By posting without agreeing with YOUR views As if your open insults do not disrupt?

no stop wriggling again you are well aware it's precisely this deliberate out of context summiseation of others points of view which purposfully build up a straw man to argue against and then pull down.

the inference is all yours and ironically suggests a very plain motivation in your contrarey nature.

regardless of the off topic ad hom, this isn't a thread about my behaviour here or about how i post.

It is a thread about about the manner in which you psot and a suggestion that all things would require the burden of proof with any claim.

"People have been banned for less.": Problem though is that as you should have seen when Mono initiated that little thread on banning me, noone could produce a true reason why it should be done. Ironically, it was shortly aftew that Moono itself was banned.

Moono is not banned.

They quit posting because of your constant disruption and background noise.

as well you know.

They were threatened with a ban by fridge magnet for pursuing you and requesting your soruce your information or shut up.

sadly, i think fridge made the wrong call, he was asking posters who ahere to the rules and regulations of the site to adhere to them more consistantly than you yourself have been held up to. which consdering your continued slander is in my view a mistake.

Take it to heart. Your thirst for "Blood" might produce results you never imagined. I like to believe that such open hatred like yours might one day be banned.

this is a threat and it is being made very appearnetly as such.

foolish.

moreover please state the blood lust i have posted with sources to vaildiate your claim.

this kind of slur is unacceptable and patently dishonest.

I'll also have some direct full quotes which is shown as direct hatred.

it might also be worth while stating for the record you are such an insignifncance as to be worth zero emotional response from me, not even disgust. you have no credibility on this matter and clearly from your other endevours and your good kill comments i'd think we can all see who is the real ambassidor of hate round here.

I might get sweary or terse with people or rant like a motherfucker, don't confuse that for a seniment of hatred. you are utterly foolish to do so.

Grandma is correct on one thing though...Basically all I have done in THIS thread is try to defend myself and Grandma does not realise that her/his comment says alot more than she.he thinks it does.

it says clearly you are utterly unable to provide proof of your claims and are attempting personal slurs against posters in order to reassert your dominance within a conversation which along with being highly embarrassing for your also provides chapter and verse as to why people ceased taking notice of you or what you say.

Why should anyone have to defend themself to a bunch of anonymous people? Furthermore, why should threads like this be allowed to exist? The person cannot get me to pay attention to them or their rants in most any other thread so they begin one like this. So silly and sad.

they don't.

why would some anonymous person offer to provide proof for something they new was a lie and then repeat that claim and further offers of proof afterwards.

you are right though it is silly and sad.

the longer you continue this without resolution other than eveyrone deciding that you are an unwelcome guest with particularlly nasty racist supremacist ideas about blood lines and good kills the less functioning internaction you will get as more and more people just chose to ignore your witterings...
 
Tarannau: "Rachamim has been shown to be a big fat liar.: Wrong. I am neither big nor fat. I am of average height and almost perfect physical condition if you discount my outer body. The liar part? How novel but that is completely up to you.

Garfield: Again with the "defacto authority" claim? Yawn.

"Friends of yours who have set up one of the most peaceful groups in the world are being slandered, as in SIM.": That was a peach, a real gem. The group that says they accept both non-violent confrontation AND any means necessary to acomplish their goal? Suicide Bombers are freedom fighters?

Th Bet'l'chem office was found to be harbouring a wanted terrorist with blood on his hands, Sukeeyah of PIJ,who had run into their office, after which they immediately locked their door and refused to open them for an IDF CT Unit? When said door was removed they did not find a weapons cache (by the way, it was a much more lucrative find than the 2 AKs and one pistol the IDF released to the public)?

Is this the ISM who has participated in actions with and publicly allied itself with HAMAS,PIJ and other fun groups via the NIF? The ISM did not publicly glorify and commit themselves as Human Shields not only to the Bet'l'chem Nativity gunmen but the Ze'evi 5 as well? Keep going on shall we?

"Blood and racial superiority.": Ironic is it not? Here you are, in a thread chasing me yet again for not offering 3 sources, and having chased me like the person who authored this thead and here you are still unable to show me proof that I am a person who believe in racial superiority?"


link.

source.

again.
 
Right, I've sent the following email to Channel 2 seeing that they along with Ilana Dayan got sued by "Captain R":


Hopefully someone at their end can confirm one way or another, I shall let you know if I get a reply...

If the trial is over bear in mind the original claim was made in December 2006.
 
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