Prince Harry

[ska invita]

its not just about her ethnicity , its about her class - though these things ... intersect!

 

[D'wards]

Isn't this whole interview just a case of airing your dirty linen in public?

Aristocratic Jeremy Kyle.

Going on international telly to declare your dad is a cunt but your nans alright is hardly gonna help matters

 

[IC3D]

its not just about her ethnicity , its about her class - though these things ... intersect!

Good point.

 

[Espresso]

I see that 17.1 million people watched that interview in America. Be interesting to see how many people watch it here.

 

[Smangus]

Good luck to em I reckon , they are better off out of the royal bullshit circus anyhow. Least we won't be paying for them now, unlike the rest of the bunch of self entitled, sponging, "we're not racist" cunts. Any discord sown in the institution over this which may hasten it's end is a good thing too.

 

[Orang Utan]

He's been pretty good sticking up for NHS workers and couldn't give a fuck about royals, pro, anti firm or chicken rescuers

He clearly does give a fuck, he’s pruriently obsessed with Meghan

 

[killer b]

I hadn't seen that before, and that story does appear to have racist undertones.

Just to be clear, I'm not trying to argue that none of the stuff written about her has been racist, I'm saying that in most of the stuff I personally had read before reports of the interview (which I'm sure is only a small proportion of what actually exists) the racism hasn't been explicitly the reason for the inequal treatment of Meghan compared to Kate.

racism is rarely totally explicit tbf

 

[Artaxerxes]

"Home sweet home? Prince Harry's new girl, Meghan Markle, grew up in this house in Crenshaw, Los Angeles, a troubled area that had 47 crimes in the past week - including murder..."

Fucking hell, that's a tiny fart in a tornado compared to the crimes committed in Westminster.

No no no, living in a slum is a crime, owning a slum and invading a country for oil or bunging a mate 30k to let you develop it is just good business.

 

[T & P]

Isn't this whole interview just a case of airing your dirty linen in public?

Aristocratic Jeremy Kyle.

Going on international telly to declare your dad is a cunt but your nans alright is hardly gonna help matters

That's only part of the story though. That they were treated like dirt by most of the untouchable British press, and were so almost certainly because racial and class prejudice, is a far more crucial aspect. As is the fact that she endured at least some degree of the same prejudice from her new family.

That needs to be exposed and aired in public as much as possible. And since the British press is certainly not going to help her denounce themselves and the Royal Family, I myself cannot blame them one iota for using the means at their disposal to strike back- in this case worldwide, unavoidable exposure via an interview with Oprah. When you are fighting all-powerful bullies you need all the help you can get.

 

[D'wards]

That's only part of the story though. That they were treated like dirt by most of the untouchable British press, and were so almost certainly because racial and class prejudice, is a far more crucial aspect. As is the fact that she endured at least some degree of the same prejudice from her new family.

That needs to be exposed and aired in public as much as possible. And since the British press is certainly not going to help her denounce themselves and the Royal Family, I myself cannot blame them one iota for using the means at their disposal to strike back- in this case worldwide, unavoidable exposure via an interview with Oprah. When you are fighting all-powerful bullies you need all the help you can get.

Of course fight the press with all the weapons you can - but family business is private business. I know this isn't a regular family but slating your dad on telly is a bit much IMHO.

 

[killer b]

Of course fight the press with all the weapons you can - but family business is private business. I know this isn't a regular family but slating your dad on telly is a bit much IMHO.

come off it. the dude should be at the bottom of a mine shaft, who gives a fuck if his lad slags him off on telly

 

[Treacle Toes]

Frogmore. The move to the States, (without informing the Queen of their intention), the 'woke' bollocks they have been spouting, the venality of the couple (Netflix).

Most things small, but cumulatively turned the GBP against them, this mirrored by the press.

A clusterfuck all round really.

A pity, but Harry broke the 'deal', he had a life of immense privilege, the downside of course was a life of 'royal service'. Meghan couldn't handle that, she seemed to have no understanding of what she was signing up for.... basically having to cease having an opinion on anything at all contentious.

Had things been done differently...

It's as if it's possible not to read a single article nor listen to a single interview ever but still string a few key words together into an authoritative narrative that you believe to be true and defend because everyone else is clearly wrong. Cos that's the only conceivable way it could be.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Of course fight the press with all the weapons you can - but family business is private business. I know this isn't a regular family but slating your dad on telly is a bit much IMHO.

This is the sort of attitude that perpetuates generations of family abuse and trauma. Keeping up appearances, just because, not fighting back, not making the choice to escape, letting those around you control the narrative, not being honest because if you do you are the 'bad' one and everyone will hate you for it.

 

[D'wards]

This is the sort of attitude that perpetuates generations of family abuse and trauma. Keeping up appearances, just because, not fighting back, not making the choice to escape, letting those around you control the narrative, not being honest because if you do you are the 'bad' one and everyone will hate you for it.

I very much doubt old Charlie boy was abusive

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I’ll be honest, I thought she was Italian

 

[Treacle Toes]

I very much doubt old Charlie boy was abusive

Because you know him that well. Up close and personal. Gotcha.

 

[Petcha]

That's only part of the story though. That they were treated like dirt by most of the untouchable British press, and were so almost certainly because racial and class prejudice, is a far more crucial aspect. As is the fact that she endured at least some degree of the same prejudice from her new family.

That needs to be exposed and aired in public as much as possible. And since the British press is certainly not going to help her denounce themselves and the Royal Family, I myself cannot blame them one iota for using the means at their disposal to strike back- in this case worldwide, unavoidable exposure via an interview with Oprah. When you are fighting all-powerful bullies you need all the help you can get.

She and Oprah seem to have got to known a little better than at her wedding. They'd met once before. For a few minutes. And who gets a front row seat..? Not her old man, no. The Queen of US Daytime TV.

That's a three year plan.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I’ll be honest, I thought she was Italian

Black and mixed ethnicity people can be Italian too because that's a nationality, obviously.

 

[Orang Utan]

What's Frogmore BTW?

 

[Treacle Toes]

She and Oprah seem to have got to known a little better than at her wedding. They'd met once before. For a few minutes. And who gets a front row seat..? Not her old man, no. The Queen of US Daytime TV.

That's a three year plan.

Burn the witch she planned it from the start.

 

[Pickman's model]

What's Frogmore BTW?

It is a house

 

[pesh]

Burn the witch she planned it from the start.

got to respect that

 

[maomao]

The queen reputedly didn't like Thatcher because she wouldn't back sanctions against South Africa like the rest of the commonwealth wanted to. But the Queen thinks she's queen of a load of countries in Africa and Asia because her ancestors' soldiers went there killing and looting. I think they're both racist.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Black and mixed ethnicity people can be Italian too because that's a nationality, obviously.

You know what I mean though. She passes for white. That being the case, the people treating her differently, if due to ethnicity, must have been doing it consciously.

 

[Treacle Toes]

got to respect that

Can't trust these gold-digging 'foreign' women. Especially actresses.

 

[Orang Utan]

It is a house

why is Sasaferrato so exercised about it?

 

[D'wards]

Because you know him that well. Up close and personal. Gotcha.

Come on - no one is suggesting he was abusive. Families fall out and feud- God knows mine can feud for England, but it all comes out in the wash.
I'm of the opinion that God chooses your family but you choose your own friends, and conversely blood is thicker than water.

Whilst it's an option I think you need to consider very carefully before cutting lose a close family member. They need to have done something pretty bad I reckon.

Man turns his back on his family well he just ain't no good as Bruce Springsteen pointed out in the 80s

 

[Petcha]

Burn the witch she planned it from the start.

She does seem pretty shrewd. In the last week she's managed to humiliate the Daily Mail and attempt to bring down the House of Windsor. As vile as she is, I can't argue with either!

 

[Treacle Toes]

You know what I mean though. She passes for white. That being the case, the people treating her differently, if due to ethnicity, must have been doing it consciously.

She doesn't pass for White. She is openly Mixed race and has never hidden that. The fact that you might not have been able to tell is your business. Italy is a country. I think you meant 'Mediterranean looking' which incidentally is commonly used to avoid calling someone White.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

She doesn't pass for White. She is openly Mixed race and has never hidden that. The fact that you might not have been able to tell is your business. Italy is a country. I think you meant 'Mediterranean looking' which incidentally is commonly used to avoid calling someone White.

I don’t really care to be frank.