Pop and Rock Stars... and underage girls

[malatesta32]

Is thon link work safe?

well mmy talk talk homesafe thing wont let me access it!

 

[LiamO]

<sudden mental image of a dead LiamO stretched out on the kitchen lino. his wife standing over him. blood on her hands.>

Idris2002 I'm sure I can say with some degree of certainty that that image and my beloved are no strangers to each other

 

[SpackleFrog]

But the evidence hasn't been posted here.

So if you haven't read it, stfu.

Not a lot of the evidence has been posted, no (some has), but a couple of people have already said they don't want to see it so thats not really surprising.

 

[LiamO]

I suppose so. He gets called a massive wanker all the time on here and it just confirms that really

Who? Bono d'nortsoider or that D4 cockdribble 8den?

 

[friedaweed]

well mmy talk talk homesafe thing wont let me access it!

Its only an urban dictionary entry

Spoiler: edging

edging
Coming nearly close to climax or ejaculation,then purposefully stopping sexual stimulation in order to delay the same, so that the ultimate climax will be more intense. Unlike the other two definitions of "edging" so far included in this dictionary, it is not a practice necessary inclusive of masturbation ("wanking"), but is also practiced amongst homosexual (and, I suppose, heterosexual) partners/couples.
"As we were edging,every time I got close to cumming, I'd withdraw and wait until immediate passion passed, and he would do the same, until neither of us could tolerate it any longer, and we both shot our loads: mine in his mouth, and his on my abdomen.
by hot bob February 03, 2008

 

[LiamO]

<sudden mental image of a dead LiamO stretched out on the kitchen lino. his wife standing over him. blood on her hands.>

and Spymaster ready to swoop with a sympathetic arm and and an alibi

 

[malatesta32]

Its only an urban dictionary entry

i know but its very strict - its like a nun on a mary whitehouse trip.

 

[DotCommunist]

Its only an urban dictionary entry

surely thats like tantric? like sting does and also Stiffler in those god awful frat boy movies that all wish they were Porky's

 

[Spymaster]

and Spymaster ready to swoop with a sympathetic arm and and an alibi

I'd happily console Mrs O anytime.

She likes me.

 

[friedaweed]

surely thats like tantric? like sting does and also Stiffler in those god awful frat boy movies that all wish they were Porky's

Yup all massive wankers too but if I have to explain the joke about bono liking Edging then I'm giving up with this place

 

[malatesta32]

wrong thread.

 

[friedaweed]

and Spymaster ready to swoop with a sympathetic arm and and an alibi

 

[LiamO]

I'd happily console Mrs O anytime.

She likes me.

Mebbe we should take this to 'nobbing and sobbing? Tell you what, you broach the idea of swapsies with your better half... and let me know when it's good to go for me to do likewise.

e2a If you are phoning from hospital or a cardboard box under Charring Cross bridge then a quick text will be fine.

 

[Part 2]

I slept with a 38 year old when I was 15. I was fully conscious of what happened and I went back for more on several occasions.

I'm not and never was a victim and the woman was not a perp.

 

[LiamO]

I'm disturbed that you knew where to find that shit at a moment's notice.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I slept with a 38 year old when I was 15. I was fully conscious of what happened and I went back for more on several occasions.

I'm not and never was a victim and the woman was not a perp.

That's fair enough and I don't think anyone's saying that's always wrong. But would you say the same if a 15 year old child you knew told you that a 38 year old got them high and took their virginity? Even if they told you they enjoyed it, would you still not think "Thats a bit fucking suspect"?

 

[friedaweed]

I'm disturbed that you knew where to find that shit at a moment's notice.

It's 3rd on the right on the second shelf of my cd collection

 

[Plumdaff]

saville gate spawned multiple threads and a steakhouse walk in freezers worth of beef

There's a difference between consensual sex with post pubescent girls - which is what Bowie and Peel did - and the rape of pre pubescent children, which is what Saville did. Both are pretty despicable, but I think there's an obvious qualitative difference and I also think, rightly or wrongly, that Saville's actions were worse. To use the parlance of this thread, I think Saville was a nonce, while I think Bowie and Peel engaged in some awful behaviour that maybe wouldn't be countenanced and hopefully would lead to prosecution now. I think all three should be discussed but I think that the way it was raised on the RIP thread was pretty troll-y and pathetic and calculated to provoke an emotional response.

The Saville gate thread was also qualitatively different. Particular individual experiences were ridiculed and dismissed and we haven't quite reached that kind of nadir yet. Let's hope we don't.

 

[Part 2]

That's fair enough and I don't think anyone's saying that's always wrong. But would you say the same if a 15 year old child you knew told you that a 38 year old got them high and took their virginity? Even if they told you they enjoyed it, would you still not think "Thats a bit fucking suspect"?

I think some people are definitely saying that.

I'd been drinking. Some kind of melon liquer if I remember right.

 

[Idris2002]

Anyway. . . someone texted me that she was listening to Bowie and feeling sad because it was the soundtrack of her youth. Did I tell her the awful truth? No, I didn't. But those of us on here should be expected to take it - after all, when we joined Cap'n editor's pirate ship, we signed our articles in blood.

 

[LiamO]

I slept with a 38 year old when I was 15. I was fully conscious of what happened and I went back for more on several occasions.

I'm not and never was a victim and the woman was not a perp.

I had a similar experience. Still friends with her now (if only on fb) and I will also always be grateful to her... for the friendship and guidance as much as the sex.

I think it's different when it's a teenage boy and an older woman. I know some people find that offensive, but IMO you can't really argue the same power relationships exist between boy/woman and girl/man

 

[SpackleFrog]

Anyway. . . someone texted me that she was listening to Bowie and feeling sad because it was the soundtrack of her youth. Did I tell her the awful truth? No, I didn't. But those of us on here should be expected to take it - after all, when we joined Cap'n editor's pirate ship, we signed our articles in blood.

We did? Fuck me, wasn't my blood was it?

 

[Idris2002]

We did? Fuck me, wasn't my blood was it?

You really need to cut back on the weed, if your memory's that wonky.

 

[friedaweed]

Anyway. . . someone texted me that she was listening to Bowie and feeling sad because it was the soundtrack of her youth. Did I tell her the awful truth? No, I didn't. But those of us on here should be expected to take it - after all, when we joined Cap'n editor's pirate ship, we signed our articles in blood.

Yup. I'm going to give it a couple of weeks before I fess up to not liking Bowie or his music

 

[Plumdaff]

Also, rightly or wrongly, I can still hugely admire Bowie knowing what he did, and shed a tear at his passing, thinking of him as a flawed genius, and feeling disgust at the mores of my childhood/adolescence. That wouldn't happen with someone engaged in rape and/or paedophilia.

 

[SpackleFrog]

I think some people are definitely saying that.

I'd been drinking. Some kind of melon liquer if I remember right.

For me the main question is power. I can accept that a 38 year old and a 15 year old could possibly have a sexual encounter with no uneven power dynamic involved - although I think it would be very unusual. Rock stars and fawning young fans though - that's very, very different. I'm guessing yours didn't take you to a hotel fancier than anything you've ever seen and give you the purest coke you'd ever had in your life.

Having said all that - I'm deeply uncomfortable about any 38 year old that wants to sleep with anyone that young, if I'm being really honest.

 

[SpackleFrog]

You really need to cut back on the weed, if your memory's that wonky.

STOP VICTIM BLAMING

 

[DotCommunist]

I had a similar experience. Still friends with her now (if only on fb) and I will also always be grateful to her... for the friendship and guidance as much as the sex.

I think it's different when it's a teenage boy and an older woman. I know some people find that offensive, but IMO you can't really argue the same power relationships exist between boy/woman and girl/man

Simon and Garfunkel did the soundtrack

 

[trashpony]

Has anyone called Bowie a serial rapist?

From what I can tell the point is simply that he (allegedly? - I honestly wasn't aware of these accusations so don't know how substantiated they are) had sex with a 13-year old.

No but I think there were some sweeping generalisations earlier in the thread. I find it quite disturbing that some posters are chucking Saville, Bowie, Peel and Glitter into the same 'bad' box. I don't think that othering or lack of distinction is very helpful.

There's a difference between consensual sex with post pubescent girls - which is what Bowie and Peel did - and the rape of pre pubescent children, which is what Saville did. Both are pretty despicable, but I think there's an obvious qualitative difference and I also think, rightly or wrongly, that Saville's actions were worse. To use the parlance of this thread, I think Saville was a nonce, while I think Bowie and Peel engaged in some awful behaviour that maybe wouldn't be countenanced and hopefully would lead to prosecution now. I think all three should be discussed but I think that the way it was raised on the RIP thread was pretty troll-y and pathetic and calculated to provoke an emotional response.

The Saville gate thread was also qualitatively different. Particular individual experiences were ridiculed and dismissed and we haven't quite reached that kind of nadir yet. Let's hope we don't.

Absolutely. And let's not forget that the age of consent was still 15 in Spain until last year.

 

[discokermit]

Anyway. . . someone texted me that she was listening to Bowie and feeling sad because it was the soundtrack of her youth. Did I tell her the awful truth? No, I didn't. But those of us on here should be expected to take it - after all, when we joined Cap'n editor's pirate ship, we signed our articles in blood.

i stole your facts/credibility line for fb. you got four likes. i think only two people understood it, one of them being ou. of the other two. one might but is hungarian and likes big english words. one is just quite thick.