PM Boris Johnson - monster thread for a monster twat

[planetgeli]

The government at the time said that the result of the referendum would be enacted.

Crucially though, they never said when.

It depends on the definition of what ‘be’ is.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Pretty much, from what I have seen, yes. They don’t like the foreigns. I actually didn’t realise you were a Leaver and, even if they claim not to be, that is the upshot because EU citizens are now having their lives uprooted because they have been given no assurances that they are free to remain in the U.K. one of the key pledges of the Leave campaign was a total end to immigration, that’s what Johnson, Gove, Farage et al promised. Okay, perhaps I was wrong, perhaps some fell for the NHS bollocks, it would be interesting to see what leave percentage is now - those who still want to leave are, I’m afraid, doing so for xenophobic reasons, now that the bus has been thoroughly debunked. I can see no other reasons why. Leave made 2 pledges: an end to immigration and £350m per week more for the NHS. So, if you now accept the bus was bollocks, but you still want to leave, then the logical assumption is that you’re xenophobic.

Leaving will mean an end to the NHS. But feel free to put me back on ignore.

Fucking hell, you are posting some fucking shit!

There's lots of left leavers on here, being anti-EU used to be a big thing for 'the left', Corbyn is a leaver, Blair (yeah, OK not exactly left) first stood for parliament with a promise of leaving.

 

[Marty1]

“Enact the referendum”…? Mate, referendums aren’t legally binding they are, legally and by definition, advisory. I know Leavers hate to be told this, but you can’t argue with facts. They are tools for gauging public opinion, nothing more. Prior to the referendum, what did you feel about the EU…? Did you know, for example, that the fact you’re entitled to statutory paid holiday is thanks to the EU…? Or that the Working Time Directive, another EU initiative, is why it is illegal for an employer to force employees to work more than 48 hours a week…? You think your job is shit now, imagine what it’ll be like when your employer doesn’t have to abide by all that nasty EU legislation that prevents them from forcing you to work 100 hours a week for 1p an hour.

Besides only around 23% of the population voted leave. Why should the majority who didn’t have their lives destroyed because the minority are xenophobic and racist cunts…?

Oh, I thought Cameron said he would abide by the referendum result? But he thought remain was going to win.

As for the rest of your post, what?

 

[Steel Icarus]

Pretty much, from what I have seen, yes. They don’t like the foreigns. I actually didn’t realise you were a Leaver and, even if they claim not to be, that is the upshot because EU citizens are now having their lives uprooted because they have been given no assurances that they are free to remain in the U.K. one of the key pledges of the Leave campaign was a total end to immigration, that’s what Johnson, Gove, Farage et al promised. Okay, perhaps I was wrong, perhaps some fell for the NHS bollocks, it would be interesting to see what leave percentage is now - those who still want to leave are, I’m afraid, doing so for xenophobic reasons, now that the bus has been thoroughly debunked. I can see no other reasons why. Leave made 2 pledges: an end to immigration and £350m per week more for the NHS. So, if you now accept the bus was bollocks, but you still want to leave, then the logical assumption is that you’re xenophobic.

Leaving will mean an end to the NHS. But feel free to put me back on ignore.

You've made the mistake of thinking the reasons the people running the leave campaign spouted were the only ones that exist, put two and two together and made 22, proclaimed in a sanctimonious way lots of shite and despite seeming to be fairly up on internet stories don't seem to have much deeper understanding.

I'd echo what others have said; in the politics forums, read more, post less, and stop talking through your hat. There are a lot of people here who know a lot of stuff in depth. Read them.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Oh, I thought Cameron said he would abide by the referendum result? But he thought remain was going to win.

As for the rest of your post, what?

I'll file her & you in my 'nutters box'.

There's nutters on both sides, luckily there's also sane people on both sides.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Or that the Working Time Directive, another EU initiative, is why it is illegal for an employer to force employees to work more than 48 hours a week…?

It's not illegal to force an employee to work more than 48 hours a week. Loopholes abound, and even if your emplyer can't be arsed to find one what are you going to do about it, now that you have to pay for an employment tribunal?

 

[Marty1]

I'll file her & you in my 'nutters box'.

There's nutters on both sides, luckily there's also sane people on both sides.

Of course, only a ‘nutter’ would expect the result of the referendum to be honoured.

 

[philosophical]

If the referendum result is to be enacted, how will that happen on the UK/EU border in Ireland?
The result of the referendum was wrapped up in one word only, 'leave'.

 

[elbows]

Oh they've got him in the Iraqi information minister pose on the front page of the BBC at the moment.

 

[equationgirl]

It's not illegal to force an employee to work more than 48 hours a week. Loopholes abound, and even if your emplyer can't be arsed to find one what are you going to do about it, now that you have to pay for an employment tribunal?

Employment tribunal fees have been abolished for a couple of years. There has been talk of reintroducing them but nothing has been implemented as far as I have know. Happy to be corrected if something came in recently.

 

[kebabking]

If the referendum result is to be enacted, how will that happen on the UK/EU border in Ireland?
The result of the referendum was wrapped up in one word only, 'leave'.

Fuck off.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Employment tribunal fees have been abolished for a couple of years. There has been talk of reintroducing them but nothing has been implemented as far as I have know. Happy to be corrected if something came in recently.

I think you might be right. I need to remember to update my rants periodically.

Fact remains that the working time directive isn't worth shit to most workers.

 

[SpookyFrank]

If the referendum result is to be enacted, how will that happen on the UK/EU border in Ireland?
The result of the referendum was wrapped up in one word only, 'leave'.

I'm glad you've finally brought this to our attention, although to be brutally honest I think you've been remiss in not raising the matter sooner.

 

[philosophical]

Fuck off.

Struggling to cope?

 

[equationgirl]

“Enact the referendum”…? Mate, referendums aren’t legally binding they are, legally and by definition, advisory. I know Leavers hate to be told this, but you can’t argue with facts. They are tools for gauging public opinion, nothing more. Prior to the referendum, what did you feel about the EU…? Did you know, for example, that the fact you’re entitled to statutory paid holiday is thanks to the EU…? Or that the Working Time Directive, another EU initiative, is why it is illegal for an employer to force employees to work more than 48 hours a week…? You think your job is shit now, imagine what it’ll be like when your employer doesn’t have to abide by all that nasty EU legislation that prevents them from forcing you to work 100 hours a week for 1p an hour.

Besides only around 23% of the population voted leave. Why should the majority who didn’t have their lives destroyed because the minority are xenophobic and racist cunts…?

Can you calm down and stop posting rants and abuse please?

Posting this poorly informed drivel all the time is doing you no favours to say the least. Post less, read more.

No, I don't hate you, I just wish you'd post less crap.

 

[equationgirl]

I think you might be right. I need to remember to update my rants periodically.

Fact remains that the working time directive isn't worth shit to most workers.

I'm currently opted out but not working at anything like the 48 hours per week limit, so it doesn't concern me too much. I can opt in by giving my employer 3 months notice at any point if needs be.

 

[LDC]

Fuck's sake, took Gaia and philosophical briefly off ignore to try and see what I was missing and make sense of the responses. That was a mistake.

 

[philosophical]

Fuck's sake, took Gaia and philosophical briefly off ignore to try and see what I was missing and make sense of the responses. That was a mistake.

Best to put me back on ignore.
No platforming is the way to go.

 

[Dogsauce]

The government at the time said that the result of the referendum would be enacted.

And the reason it didn’t happen was dissenting voices from within the governing party, mainly from those dissatisfied that the deal wasn’t brexitty enough for them. Those finger wagging at ‘remainers’ sabotaging things are trying to divert attention from this being a wholly Tory-made clusterfuck.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Pretty much, from what I have seen, yes. They don’t like the foreigns. I actually didn’t realise you were a Leaver and, even if they claim not to be, that is the upshot because EU citizens are now having their lives uprooted because they have been given no assurances that they are free to remain in the U.K. one of the key pledges of the Leave campaign was a total end to immigration, that’s what Johnson, Gove, Farage et al promised. Okay, perhaps I was wrong, perhaps some fell for the NHS bollocks, it would be interesting to see what leave percentage is now - those who still want to leave are, I’m afraid, doing so for xenophobic reasons, now that the bus has been thoroughly debunked. I can see no other reasons why. Leave made 2 pledges: an end to immigration and £350m per week more for the NHS. So, if you now accept the bus was bollocks, but you still want to leave, then the logical assumption is that you’re xenophobic.

Leaving will mean an end to the NHS. But feel free to put me back on ignore.

Of course you could have voted leave because the EU is anti-working class (e.g it 's institutional valourisation of German banking capital) and anti-internationalist (e.g it's very concrete promotion of fortress Europe), but don't let that get in the way of your more 'thoughtful' appreciation of the leave win. Stereotypes are always easier to deal with...if only in the short term.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[equationgirl]

And before any casual onlooker thinks Gaia is getting ganged up on, robust challenges have always been at the heart of urban, especially in politics, and anyone posting utter shit is always challenged hard.

There is a low tolerance for shite in politics at the best of time, let alone when constant bollocks is posted.

 

[equationgirl]

And the reason it didn’t happen was dissenting voices from within the governing party, mainly from those dissatisfied that the deal wasn’t brexitty enough for them. Those finger wagging at ‘remainers’ sabotaging things are trying to divert attention from this being a wholly Tory-made clusterfuck.

I don't think cluster fuck captures the true abysmal nature of the this debacle. What's worse than cluster fuck?

 

[Pickman's model]

And before any casual onlooker thinks Gaia is getting ganged up on, robust challenges have always been at the heart of urban, especially in politics, and anyone posting utter shit is always challenged hard.

There is a low tolerance for shite in politics at the best of time, let alone when constant bollocks is posted.

I think she's not ganged up on enough if we really want her to up her game

 

[Argonia]

Omnifuck

 

[Louis MacNeice]

And before any casual onlooker thinks Gaia is getting ganged up on, robust challenges have always been at the heart of urban, especially in politics, and anyone posting utter shit is always challenged hard.There is a low tolerance for shite in politics at the best of time, let alone when constant bollocks is posted.

Very nicely put.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Dogsauce]

I don't think cluster fuck captures the true abysmal nature of the this debacle. What's worse than cluster fuck?

Grayling

 

[8ball]

And before any casual onlooker thinks Gaia is getting ganged up on, robust challenges have always been at the heart of urban, especially in politics, and anyone posting utter shit is always challenged hard.

There is a low tolerance for shite in politics at the best of time, let alone when constant bollocks is posted.

Tbf it’s a common theme. I’ve never been a fan of the EU, but when speaking to some leavers about their views (irl, not on here), they immediately ascribe a whole set of views to me that I don’t have.

I do contend that when it comes to principled leftist leavers, though, you’ll find a far higher proportion on here than in the wider world generally.

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't think cluster fuck captures the true abysmal nature of the this debacle. What's worse than cluster fuck?

lime and baileys

 

[8ball]

lime and baileys

Post reported.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I've also found asking genuine questions on the politics forums is rarely met with anything other than genuine answers, but talking with your cock out is routinely and rightly given short shrift.