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Palm: Pre, webOS & app discussion

could webos do an iphone simulator? I guess somebody would already be doing this if it were possible..but it would be fantastic if all those iPhone apps could be run inside webos!

Well the approach that looks to be the best one for cross platform mobile development is doing all dev in html/css/javascript and then running your local web app in web browser wrapper.

This allows you to pretty much write the app once and then with a small bit of tweaking getting it running on iPhone/android/webos/nokia etc
 
Yeah but they are not all doing that..so get busy making me an iPhone simulator for the Pre please!

I'd pay at least a fiver for that ;-)
 
I'm still waiting to transfer my number over, so I haven't been using it as my main phone yet, but the thought of going back to Android already feels like a massive step backward. The multi tasking makes an unbelievable amount of difference to usability - it's fantastic.
 
I've downloaded the two weater apps - Accuweather and bweather. Both look slick. But why do their current temp and 5-day weather forecast differ from each other? Should be the same surely, as they would source from the same place I would think.
 
The multi tasking makes an unbelievable amount of difference to usability - it's fantastic.

I've really been reviewing my use of the iPhone and the lack of proper multi tasking is defo becoming a pain in the arse.

How many cards are you running at once before it starts to crack under the load?
 
I've really been reviewing my use of the iPhone and the lack of proper multi tasking is defo becoming a pain in the arse.

How many cards are you running at once before it starts to crack under the load?
I've only ever had about five or six at one go: email, some web pages and weather, and everything ran very smoothly indeed. The Palm system feels much more like working on a computer at home. The phone may have its faults (like the lack of apps) but going back to a handset with anything other than a webOS-like interface would feel a major step backwards now. The notifications system is superb too.

My Android phone felt positively Neanderthal when I used it this morning.
 
A interesting test would be having a 3rd party media app - e.g. Spotify - playing whilst doing other stuff. That's something the iPhone just cannot do (rather than can do but a little clunkily, like having web pages rendering whilst using email).
 
There's footage on youtube of people opening up to 20 cards on their Pre - wow!

Got a link I just went looking for that video.

Of the videos im seeing on youtube one thing that is concerning me is that the touchscreen doesnt appear to be accurate in the sense that a few videos are showing people having to tap twice sometimes three times.
 
Indeed...it depends what you want out of a phone really. The good news is whatever your tasts the consumer is now pretty much catered for (once network exclusivity terms end) - iPhone, Pre, BB, Nokia that new Motorola, HTC....take your pick, have a play around the shop and then get the phone that you can lvie with.
 
Got a link I just went looking for that video.

Of the videos im seeing on youtube one thing that is concerning me is that the touchscreen doesnt appear to be accurate in the sense that a few videos are showing people having to tap twice sometimes three times.

5 min clip

8 min clip
 
Indeed...it depends what you want out of a phone really. The good news is whatever your tasts the consumer is now pretty much catered for (once network exclusivity terms end) - iPhone, Pre, BB, Nokia that new Motorola, HTC....take your pick, have a play around the shop and then get the phone that you can lvie with.

Yup, these are great days for the smartphone users! :cool:
 
All the O2 stores I've been in since Friday have had at least 2 working Pres on display

e2a: Surrey Quays, Fenchurch Street & Cannon Street
 
I had a play with one in a shop the other day (02 in Chiswick). It was rather lovely. I just can't justify doubling my monthly contract cost to get one.
 
After a few days I love what the Pre could be with some work on Palm's part, but I'm starting to notice a few major os flaws (hopefully they get addressed quickly).

Primarily the alarm clock is really unreliable, which would make me think twice about getting one if I hadn't already. I woke up late today to find my phone asking me to dismiss the alarm, which wasn't actually ringing. The sound was at full volume, so it's not because I'd set it to silent, or vibrate. I've also found that sometimes in the evening the alarm has cancelled itself for the next day and I have to reset it. You also have to set it at 5 minute intervals, which is a little annoying (yes, on some days I really do like those extra 2 minutes of sleep, but can't afford the full 5)

I've had a few launcher issues as well where it will just open up the last application instead of the launch menu. So far this has fixed itself after a few minutes, but I can see some resets in the future (and the Pre takes ages to start/shutdown).

There's no easy way to manage files, but I suspect an app will come along to fix that (I can't figure out how to delete pdf's away from a computer).

There's also a little light-bleed from the lcd around the edges of the phone, which I noticed last night watching a film, and of course the battery life really is awful.

All-in-all I still prefer the Pre over my old samsung (which was stuck on the old EDGE network and quite battered), but it still has a couple of major kinks that need ironing out.

Edit: Now I'm testing it, the alarm won't sound at all! ffs

Edit 2: Got it working again, and having looked into it, it seems that until they bring out the update the pre won't play daily alarms that you set on the same day :/
 
That new patch can't come quick enough for some minor annoyances, but it's still the best phone I've used by miles. Good to see Fliq Notes coming out soon.

Have you tried restarting the phone, btw? That's cleared up the alarm issue for some folks.
 
Yeah, hopefully it's fixed it for tomorrow now. I just don't like going to sleep not knowing whether it will wake me up on time. :rolleyes:
 
What's the story with the bing-bong thing ??

I have one touchstone that works perfectly. I have another one that when the Pre is docked and hits 100% it oscilates between a charging and non-charging mode and bing-bongs each time it goes into charging mode.

I'm bringing both touchstones into work tomorrow and doing a side by side test.
 
Mine seems to be having a fit at the moment and not sending SMSes, but I suspect that could be down to having my old number ported across, which completed yesterday noon after submitting the PAC on Saturday night.

The inability to forward SMS or to select text within SMS or emails is also supposed to be addressed by the next OS upgrade.

Anyone played with the SDK yet ??
 
I've had no problems sending texts - and I'm loving the way I can start a chat in Google Talk and seamlessly continue in SMS. *Very* slick.

I really want to get my hands on al that Homebrew stuff, so I'm mustard keen to get my mitts on the firmware upgrade. Quite a few apps are appearing in the store now though: Fliq Notes looks like something I'd pay for once the desktop app is released.
 
I've had no problems sending texts - and I'm loving the way I can start a chat in Google Talk and seamlessly continue in SMS. *Very* slick.

Is it possible to stop that behaviour from happening? Personally I wouldnt like it switching between IM and SMS with me knowing/controling it.
 
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