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Palm: Pre, webOS & app discussion

There's a very limp interview on the BBC site with Rubenstein, Palm's chief exec, and an o2 head honcho.

On a personal level, I don't mind the shockingly poor marketing of the Pre. Means when I go in tomorrow morning I'm not going to find it sold out.
 
I'm going to have a play with it just to see what the build quality is like, I've seen a few videos where the slider mechanism looks wobbly which would annoy the fuck out of me, and to see if my average sized fingers have any issues with the keys.

It's a toss up now for me between the Pre or HTC Hero chin an'all.
 
I'm on O2 already and have been with them for a few years. In Nov I got a Nokia e71 which I am happy to ditch for a Palm. My contract was extended with the new phone.

What's the best way to get my hands on a Palm Pre with a contract? Extend my contract further? I'm happy with O2. Never had to ring customer services to complain.
 
Jayeola I think you should call o2 direct and see what they can do for you. Being with them a few years = loyal customer. Hopefully they'll treat you as such!
 
Say your current handest doesn't meet your needs and the Palm Pre would. If you can't get a new handest you'll have to take your business elsewhere...usually works
 
Bear in mind however that the iphone and most likely the Pre are premium and therefore untouchable, i.e their prices are non-negotiable, no matter how loyal a customer you are.
 
sumimasen said:
There's a very limp interview on the BBC site with Rubenstein, Palm's chief exec, and an o2 head honcho.

On a personal level, I don't mind the shockingly poor marketing of the Pre. Means when I go in tomorrow morning I'm not going to find it sold out.
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The iPhone had stupid levels of hype, sold million in its first weekend. I strolled into a Carphone warehouse with no waiting and picked one up on the first day of release. I asked the guy how many they had in stock and he said 'Loads mate'...
 
Kid_Eternity said:
The iPhone had stupid levels of hype, sold million in its first weekend. I strolled into a Carphone warehouse with no waiting and picked one up on the first day of release. I asked the guy how many they had in stock and he said 'Loads mate'...
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If the US release is anything to go by, Palm's infinitely smaller resources may mean that there's a lot less Pre's around on launch day.
 
I'm serious, if you go to the o2 website, I will be utterly amazed and impressed if you can find the Pre on that in under 2 minutes.

It's the night before release ffs.
 
sumimasen said:
I'm serious, if you go to the o2 website, I will be utterly amazed and impressed if you can find the Pre on that in under 2 minutes.

It's the night before release ffs.
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Yes. I had a look at this. I'm baffled by the whole downplaying it stance of 02. and Palm don't seem to have helped much either. It worries me.

Either we'll be surprised over the next few weeks and months..or..or..well I guess it's just not gonna take off as I hoped.

I'm looking forward to having a go on it in store. IF if if I were to go for it I need to find a To Do list app for it that synchs with a mac desktop.

argh I'm still vacillating between this and an iPhone..STILL!

My head says iphone due to stable, mature platform and LifeBalance and no synch issues with my mac..less fecking about with geekery above my station...and the general sense I get that apps/linkups/etc will get to iPhone first..

My heart says Pre due to smaller pebbly size, real keyb, open webOs likely to lead to innovs at some point in the future...and a certain pleasure in saying feck off to apple and everybody else's iPhone ;-)
 
I'm starting to wonder whether they've either fecked up stupidly...OR basically looked at it dispassionately (none of that "hope it succeeds, it deserves it" stuff) and simply decided that spending any money/effort on marketing is just not worth it

so is this phone going to -

a..go crazy with word of mouth
b..trickle along with a few sales

or

c...basically fizzle out
 
Piers Gibbon said:
I'm starting to wonder whether they've either fecked up stupidly...OR basically looked at it dispassionately (none of that "hope it succeeds, it deserves it" stuff) and simply decided that spending any money/effort on marketing is just not worth it

so is this phone going to -

a..go crazy with word of mouth
b..trickle along with a few sales

or

c...basically fizzle out
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The oddest thing is that it's picked up *tons* of positive reviews, and has been in the press all week, so O2 have only got to shove the thing in the shops.

Maybe the picture will become cleared tomorrow.
 
Given the trouble they've been having with network growth, I wonder if O2 are just worried about overloading their system at the moment and the Pre's just launched at the wrong time.
 
Piers Gibbon said:
I'm starting to wonder whether they've either fecked up stupidly...OR basically looked at it dispassionately (none of that "hope it succeeds, it deserves it" stuff) and simply decided that spending any money/effort on marketing is just not worth it

so is this phone going to -

a..go crazy with word of mouth
b..trickle along with a few sales

or

c...basically fizzle out
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It wouldn't surprise me if it's simply rational economics.

Perhaps they just looked at the money being poured in along and adjusted how much backing they'd give it?
 
manifold said:
Given the trouble they've been having with network growth, I wonder if O2 are just worried about overloading their system at the moment and the Pre's just launched at the wrong time.
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Hmmm not sure at least going by a recent statement in which they said they should be on top of it within the next six or so weeks...
 
Piers Gibbon said:
I'm starting to wonder whether they've either fecked up stupidly...OR basically looked at it dispassionately (none of that "hope it succeeds, it deserves it" stuff) and simply decided that spending any money/effort on marketing is just not worth it
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Another way of saying that is that O2 dont have much faith in it.
 
grit said:
Maybe using the word faith was a poor choice, I should have used confidence.
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My point is your talking in emotive terms, no business or businessperson worth their salt works like that. O2 aren't pushing the Pre as much as they could because of how some executive 'feels' about the unit. They're doing it because they've made a business decision to.

Anyway, we've had this dance more than needed, can we move past this now because it really is boring the hell out of me! :facepalm:
 
6 day wait on Expansys!

http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=189165

PC Pro gave it a meh review sighting poor battery life, sluggish UI and flimsy build quality.

Going to the local O2 store at lunch to see if there is anything on display, the windows were devoid of any advertising when I passed this morning.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Anyway, we've had this dance more than needed, can we move past this now because it really is boring the hell out of me! :facepalm:
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Amen to that. :facepalm:

I'm guessing that there aren't going to be that many units available right now, with the promotion ramping up as supplies grow. I'll try and pick one up in town tomorrow if there's any still available.
 
mack said:
6 day wait on Expansys!

http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=189165

PC Pro gave it a meh review sighting poor battery life, sluggish UI and flimsy build quality.

Going to the local O2 store at lunch to see if there is anything on display, the windows were devoid of any advertising when I passed this morning.
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Judging from videos I've seen, I doubt the UI is that sluggish. The flimsy build quality and poor battery life would be a worry. I'm not carrying a second battery around with me.
 
sumimasen said:
Guess I'm the first one here with one then! What do I win?!
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Tell us more! Where did you get it from?

Xanadu said:
Judging from videos I've seen, I doubt the UI is that sluggish. The flimsy build quality and poor battery life would be a worry. I'm not carrying a second battery around with me.
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By all accounts the battery life is about the same as the iPhone 3G (although you can of course carry spares).

I wouldn't describe the build as 'flimsy' either. It's certainly not Nokia-street tuff, but it seemed OK to me.
 
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