Palm: Pre, webOS & app discussion
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hiraethified
The answer is "I don't know."
If you're that bothered to prove your point, why don't you do some of your own research instead of relying on me to do it for you?
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hiraethified
Only if it's as easy to send a picture by email as it is to send and receive an MMS message, which for many phones is a simple process of 'click and send.'
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
On my Touch HD it is just that, click the mail icon on the photo and you have a choice of MMS or your mail accounts. Can't remember about Nokia as my E61 didn't have a camera.
I agree the software needs to be that easy to get people make the change though.
I agree the software needs to be that easy to get people make the change though.
Sunray
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Omission yes.
Serious problem, hardly. I've never cursed the day Apple sold me a phone because it doesn't send MMS. I can receive MMS.
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hiraethified
I didn't say it was a 'serious problem.'
Kid_Eternity
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hiraethified
I just find it weird how the iPhone brigade here are insisting that people don't need MMS.
They might think they do, of course. Heck, they might even use MMS often, find them really useful and be one of the millions sending them regularly, but, apparently, they're all wrong.
And that's because if the iPhone doesn't do MMS, then MMS is a technology to be dismissed.
Apparently.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
It's possible to comment on something, such as the way a company does things without becoming partisan. Hence my original reply to you.
Email will replace MMS, the question is when and should it be enforced like Apple choose to do. You originally said Apple still doesn't support MMS. I don't think they ever will.
Email will replace MMS, the question is when and should it be enforced like Apple choose to do. You originally said Apple still doesn't support MMS. I don't think they ever will.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
I now can't shake the mental image of these sort of posts being delived over half-moon specs by a learnéd barrister to a skeptical and weary judge
RT. HON. EDITOR QC: .... Apparently
He turns to face the jury
RT. HON. EDITOR QC: Does any person here present now deny these facts here preesented? No, my respected peers
He nods at the judge
RT. HON. EDITOR QC: Your honour. They do not They can not. The defence rests.
He sits. Shuffles papers. A calm sip of water etc
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hiraethified
I'm done with stating the obvious now, jaed.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Isn't it possible that the flip side to that is iPhone users feel MMS is just being used as a stick to beat them with by those who aren't enamoured by Apple?
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I now can't shake the mental image of these sort of posts being delived over half-moon specs by a learnéd barrister to a skeptical and weary judge
RT. HON. EDITOR QC: .... Apparently
He turns to face the jury
RT. HON. EDITOR QC: Does any person here present now deny these facts here preesented? No, my respected peers
He nods at the judge
RT. HON. EDITOR QC: Your honour. They do not They can not. The defence rests.
He sits. Shuffles papers. A calm sip of water etc
Comedic genius!
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hiraethified
Err, this is a thread about the Palm Pre that is in danger of being taken over by iPhone users insisting that no one needs MMS.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Yes yes of course but was speaking generally but as it's been brought up here Rumpoll of the Bailey style...
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Or users of other phones, who can send MMS, but were trying to explain Apple's thinking. 
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hiraethified
I didn't realise you were privy to Apple's thinking, but thanks for the rolleyes. They always help things along.Or users of other phones, who can send MMS, but were trying to explain Apple's thinking.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
That's because you always jump down peoples throats when posting their thoughts on a situation. I'm not Apple, just specualting on their motives. Its not P&P, we're only talking about new toys.
You then go of on one about the iphone users insisting nobody needs MMS, when I don't even use an iphone and infact chose a phone that enabled me to do exactly what I wanted on it.
Of course its speculation, but then so is much of this thread, hence why I started my original post with "I'm not sure" rather then "This is how it will happen"
You then go of on one about the iphone users insisting nobody needs MMS, when I don't even use an iphone and infact chose a phone that enabled me to do exactly what I wanted on it.
Of course its speculation, but then so is much of this thread, hence why I started my original post with "I'm not sure" rather then "This is how it will happen"
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hiraethified
Back to the Pre, I'm watching the and although it's not really my thing, there's a few interesting snippets in there. Emulator is on the way, as is a full SDK and there'll be plug ins for some text editors like Eclipse.
You can have multiple examples of applications open, with each given a different state if they're in the foreground or background - so it's possible to have three different emails from different accounts open and active, and copy and paste between them and any other open apps.
Data will be cached locally so web based apps cans run offline.
You can have multiple examples of applications open, with each given a different state if they're in the foreground or background - so it's possible to have three different emails from different accounts open and active, and copy and paste between them and any other open apps.
Data will be cached locally so web based apps cans run offline.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
http://tinycomb.com/2009/02/04/palm-pre-release-date-leaked/
15th March for the US, thats a few websites that have said that. So couple of weeks for reviews and then the long slog till its out here.
15th March for the US, thats a few websites that have said that. So couple of weeks for reviews and then the long slog till its out here.
Lazy Llama
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hiraethified
I'm not expecting a UK launch before June at the earliest, but I will say one thing: Palm are very good at keeping things up their sleeve.
No one knew - or even expected - the company to pull out a product as advanced and as innovative as the Pre, so I won't be surprised if they've got more surprises up their sleeve, or if the phone comes earlier than expected.
Lazy Llama
Suburban robots that monitor reality
Then there's this Sprint update where the Treo Pro went from the 15th Feb launch on that list to "TBD".
Maybe they've decided not to launch the Treo Pro as the Pre is ready early.
We'll see two weeks on Sunday.
Maybe they've decided not to launch the Treo Pro as the Pre is ready early.
We'll see two weeks on Sunday.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I can't find it now but I've read before that that doesn't really mean anything and you can get FCC approval on the quiet. March 15th sounds very earlier even for the US going the things I've read about testing issues over security and the next round of testing due to start April. I really don't expect it launched anywhere before June.
I'm beginning to think Palm have got their act together on the marketing via rumour and leak front at long last...
Slight correction. Eclipse is a (very good) IDE. See www.eclipse.org . Its what a heck of a lot of developers use since, unlike a lot of IDE it can be used for more than one language and has zillions of extensions that make the process easier.. Its also (and this is a huge flame war) much easier to use than other IDEs, like Emacs... And since there's a plugin for Pre development, creating apps should be a breeze. All good.
Didn't the iPhone not have FCC approval until very late...?
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