Kid_Eternity
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When I had my n73 on T Mobile I used roughly 150mbs (sometimes as much as 400mb) a month via tethering for over a year not once had any problems...
Palm: Pre, webOS & app discussion
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When I had my n73 on T Mobile I used roughly 150mbs (sometimes as much as 400mb) a month via tethering for over a year not once had any problems...
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hiraethified
It should go down as one of the truly great mobile OSs.
Kid_Eternity
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Excellent vid, Palm should do a few of these and cut down 20 second versions for tv adverts. This phone can't come out quick enough!
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hiraethified
Unless it comes out at some ridiculously high price, my money's going straight on this puppy.
The multi-tasking interface is superb!
Kid_Eternity
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Mine too! I'm prepared to pay up to £400 unlocked for this (don't really want a contract as the 02 sim only is perfect for my needs)...
cyberfairy
http://unicycle-emptiness.co.uk/
This might be an ever so slight derail but I bought a Treo on ebay recently and love it to bits-however I unlocked it and put it on orange pay as you go but despite only ever making a few short phonecalls and texts on it a week, my credit disappears within days
My other half did something to disconnect it from going onto web but it still tries to connect until I cancel-could this be where my credit is going or might it be something else?
My other half did something to disconnect it from going onto web but it still tries to connect until I cancel-could this be where my credit is going or might it be something else?
That video, as it stands, would get banned.
Apple have already had an ad banned in the UK for showing unrealistic rendering times. In the Palm video, there is no web rendering time whatsoever. It's about as fake as you can make it.
Sticking with the Nokia E71 until the pre comes out as I don't think that it'll be for a while. By that time I do hope palm's threats of patent mofo-ness have been relegated. would be really silly to purchase something that can be touched, only to find that Palm have "untouched" it cos they didn't want to upset the Apple "we invented touch" massive.
editor
hiraethified
The consensus seems to be that Apple have already ripped off several Palm's long-standing patents, so that any kind of patent war would be massively counter-productive for both parties.
Let's hope so anyway, because a lengthy legal battle would be of zero benefit to consumers.
I'd say that ad was more about showing off the functionality rather than making bold claims that consumers would enjoy such speeds (which is what Apple did in their banned advert).
Mind you, the Palm Pre browser is supposed to be considerably faster than the iPhone's so it will be interesting to see what kind of speed it manages in the real world.
Edit: you can see the browser in action here:
It seems pretty fast (although clearly not immediate as in the video).
Kid_Eternity
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Not it wouldn't they could easily have a greyed out disclaimer at the bottom of the screen...
FridgeMagnet
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It's not so much the rendering times as the download times. My desktop is only a bit faster than that.
The video is 'edited', just like Apple's. No point Editor pretending that plucky little Palm is good editing, and bad evil Apple is nasty editing.
Fake vids are fake vids. I'll post some Apple ones up in this thread if that helps.
Anyone saying they're not faked?
No. Good.
Fake vids are fake vids. I'll post some Apple ones up in this thread if that helps.
Anyone saying they're not faked?
No. Good.
editor
hiraethified
Or the web page could have just been cached, no?
No idea why you're getting so worked up about this, btw. Palm hasn't made any claims that users will enjoy super fast speeds: they're just showing off the device's functionality in an informative video.
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hiraethified
Some ore developments:
First chapter here: http://developer.palm.com/webos_book/book1.htmlOn the heels of the enthusiasm that has greeted the debut of the Palm(R) webOS(TM) platform and the Palm Pre(TM) phone, O'Reilly Media and Palm, Inc. (NasdaqALM) today announced that they're collaborating to create the first official resource for programming the new webOS platform. Written by Palm Vice President and Software Chief Technology Officer Mitch Allen and members of the webOS development team, "Palm webOS: Developing Applications in JavaScript Using the Palm Mojo(TM) Framework" is being edited and distributed by O'Reilly Media, a leading publisher of technology resources.
The first chapter of the Rough Cuts Version of the book is currently available online for free from the Palm Developer Network at http://developer.palm.com, and is scheduled to be available on the O'Reilly website Monday by 7 p.m. CET (10 a.m. Eastern). Rough Cuts is a service from Safari Books Online that provides early access to books on cutting-edge technologies prior to publication. Programmers eager to learn how to develop applications on webOS can literally read the book online as it is being written or download it as a PDF. And with Rough Cuts, readers can participate in an ongoing discussion about the book and technology. The complete book will be published upon release of Mojo, Palm's webOS software development kit (SDK).
"Palm webOS is unlike any mobile platform available today," said Mitch Allen, vice president and software chief technology officer, Palm, Inc. "Because it leverages several industry-standard web technologies, including CSS, HTML and JavaScript, it enables them to build native JavaScript applications and provides a rich open development environment that's familiar to tens of millions of web developers. I'm excited to be working with O'Reilly to show the developer community just how easy and satisfying it is to develop applications for webOS."
http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palma...official-resource-for-webos-programming-.html
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hiraethified
Woohoo! The Pre will support Flash. The phone just keeps on getting better.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/palm-joins-adobes-open-screen-project-pre-to-support-flash/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/palm-joins-adobes-open-screen-project-pre-to-support-flash/
Kid_Eternity
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Nice one!
Kid_Eternity
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UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Never seen the point in redtube, torrents ftw.
Lazy Llama
Suburban robots that monitor reality
Looks like Palm may be partnering with Vodafone for the Pre in Europe.
No European GSM announcement for the Pre at the Mobile World Congress though.
No European GSM announcement for the Pre at the Mobile World Congress though.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Biggest and perhaps only problem I now have with the Pre is with that tiny keyboard.
I reckon I can easily out type anyone on a tiny keyboard with Apples virtual one. I don't like the action of pressing onto something i'm holding. I prefer the very light touch approach.
I reckon I can easily out type anyone on a tiny keyboard with Apples virtual one. I don't like the action of pressing onto something i'm holding. I prefer the very light touch approach.
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hiraethified
It's bigger than the Centro's keyboard and I've been getting along just fine with that.
You may prefer a virtual onscreen keyboard - and they're certainly fine for short messages - but usability tests show a hardware keyboard as being superior.
That's why PC keyboards still have proper keys with physical feedback and people aren't typing on sheets of groovy glass.
Kid_Eternity
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It depends on your use, I have the Centro (Pre has the same style keyboard but with bigger and better spaced buttons) and can type pretty well on it. I regularly post on here (posts as long as this) on it and send texts/tweets/emails every day from it with ease...
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
There might be an infinity number of tests to prove it, but I'm not so keen now I've got so quick with this device.
PC keyboards are much bigger and I can type with many fingers and without looking at the keyboard. I'm not supporting it with my left hand either. I don't think its very relevant to include that.
Clearly a compromise has to be made somewhere. Personally I'm not keen in pressing my device. I can also type a lot faster without having to make that contact that you need with a button.
This is a good example of me on a small keyboard. By the time he has typed www i've entered the whole thing.
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hiraethified
It's generally recognised as a faster input method for longer messages and, of course, it lets you use speed dials and program shortcuts by pressing a single key.
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