Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize
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klang
klang
Well, compared to the other US Presidents, he's relatively peaceful
what's 'relatively peaceful'??? you either are peaceful or you are not. there is no such thing as relative peace...
bluestreak
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They did, I've got two, and physics one for my repeated efforts in proving gravity exists though the means of falling over drunk. Although I tell everyone I invented it. Gravity, that is, not falling over drunk, any drunk can do that.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
I dunno, in this day and age relative peace probably the best you can hope for. Not actually being able the hear the shots being fired, your only contribution to the war effort being your wages and welfare programs, the odd scuffle in the SU when Giles says our boys are brave and should be applauded and you disagree and so it's outside for fisticuff where Giles kicks you in the nuts before you start and everyone laughs.
klang
klang
fair enough, but Obama still leads and represents an empire at war, a superpower trying to reshuffle the world order to its advantage without giving a fuck about basic human rights. the idea behind modern america is expansion, neo-imperialism, and securing markets and resources for its own good and its own future. obama agreed to represent and lead america when he was sworn in and is no revolutionary who cares about the well-being of everybody on this planet. he was and is aware of modern day economies and the need for america to fight wars to remain the super power it is. therefor, in the case of obama and america there is, imo, no 'relatively peaceful'.
What intentions ?
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
What the fuck for exactly?
And no, 'being black' just isn't going to cut it this time
For not being Bush?
It lost any credibility (if it ever had any) when Kissinger won it anyway
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
Yes, every moment Sassaferetto is on urban75 he is doing more for world peace than Obama. Although we did ban tobyjug, and I'm pretty sure he's doing less for world peace than Obama.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
Agreed. I was just being weird.
klang
klang
Yuwipi Woman
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Not only that, but it makes it more difficult to get something done in the future. Getting some "euro-weenie" award from those "weak Europeans" won't get him any traction with the Rebublicans in Congress.
This is more about thumbing their nose at GWB than it is anything Obama has done.
Yuwipi Woman
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Yuwipi Woman
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Here's an MSNBC poll on if he deserves it or not. Most think not.
http://www.polls.newsvine.com/_ques...-deserving-of-the-nobel-peace-prize?GT1=43001
http://www.polls.newsvine.com/_ques...-deserving-of-the-nobel-peace-prize?GT1=43001
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
nominations for the prize closed barely two weeks after he was inaugurated
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/09/nobel-peace-prize-barack-obama
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/09/nobel-peace-prize-barack-obama
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
Yeah, if not starting any wars for a while makes a US president relatively peaceful, by that reckoning, I've not done it for a while, does that make me relatively a virgin?
AnnO'Neemus
Is so vanilla
^This.
I can't remember, and I'm on my mobile so can't Google, did Blair get one for Northern Ireland?
BlueSquareThing
With chips
They are just about to attack the Clangers though...
strung out
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hume and trimble got one
klang
klang
Yeah, if not starting any wars for a while makes a US president relatively peaceful, by that reckoning, I've not done it for a while, does that make me relatively a virgin?
klang
klang
Yeah, if not starting any wars for a while makes a US president relatively peaceful, by that reckoning, I've not done it for a while, does that make me relatively a virgin?
Made me think of the buying a wife thread - I wonder if a relative virgin is cheaper in a mail order catalogue than a proper virgin.....
newbie
undisambiguated
Yeah, if not starting any wars for a while makes a US president relatively peaceful, by that reckoning, I've not done it for a while, does that make me relatively a virgin?
but he has! he's declared war on the rest of the solar system and started it with a pre-emptive attack on the moon, which didn't even have a despotic dictator (not one we've been told about anyway).
toblerone3
Grrrrr
There's been a trend in recent years for the Nobel Peace Prize to be given to people in a position to contribute to a peace process before this contribution has actually been completed
F.W de Klerk and Nelson Mandela (1993)
Arafat, Rabin and Peres (1994)
Hume and Trimble (1998)
and now....
Obama (2009)
It seems much more an attempt to influence future events than to judge a past record. Of the three previous 'pre-emptive' Nobel prizes, I would argue that two out of three were sucessful. Of course what part the Nobel Prize itself played in it is arguable.
F.W de Klerk and Nelson Mandela (1993)
Arafat, Rabin and Peres (1994)
Hume and Trimble (1998)
and now....
Obama (2009)
It seems much more an attempt to influence future events than to judge a past record. Of the three previous 'pre-emptive' Nobel prizes, I would argue that two out of three were sucessful. Of course what part the Nobel Prize itself played in it is arguable.
toblerone3
Grrrrr
Is this the first Noble peace prize given to someone in charge of a country that is killing people?
I don't think Arafat, Rabin and Peres were completely innocent of similar accusations.
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