Novara / Roger Hallam interview....
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he thought he was really clever, with the much-touted claim that he'd researched really hard into finding out what forms of protest worked. but he didn't bother looking into all the other aspects of social movements which give them traction. things like solidarity with those arrested, charged and prosecuted
LDC
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I was surprised he talked about climate as sub-section of class struggle, and he did get a not-easy ride from the interviewer but gave some good replies sometimes. He also gave some fair (not that I totally agreed with him) challenges to the likes of Novara as commentators on social change, not anything more which Bastani didn't like and blustered that they were all involved in student struggles (in 2010)...
ska invita
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This is the best bit - throwing down the gauntlet to everyone with any position of power, including media people like novara, to agree climate change is the most pressing "issue" (its more than an issue really), and then step up and actually take some direct action and take a lead in encouraging others to do the same. There are so many people in positions of power like that, all talk but no action.
LDC
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He still loses the plot when it comes to mechanisms for change. At about 1.00hr in he sticks/reverts back to that programmtic A does B which inevitably leads to C thing, with A being get people in the streets doing civil disobedience. He does acknowledge it's a theoretical construction but one that's engaged in a practical reality. He also does raise a valid point about other struggles (he mentions nurses) needing to use more militant tactics and that's the way they'll win their struggles and it's the unions and bureacracy that's stopping this.
He does also (rightly and importantly imo) says that is the left doesn't provide answers and a practical set of actions to solve social problems then likely the right will.
He does also (rightly and importantly imo) says that is the left doesn't provide answers and a practical set of actions to solve social problems then likely the right will.
LDC
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I guess that's also a challenge to us all by default as well isn't it? Like we're all just kicking along doing (mostly) what we've always done.
ska invita
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yes...im planning to go on The Big One (21st April) for a bit but its basically a waste of time i expect...(mainly i'll use it as an excuse to be in town and do something after)
roger hallam put his finger on the problem because he made the point correctly, people are activated emotionally (like post the video of George Floyd) not on pure intelligence and measured response to facts...regarding climate change we are frogs boiling in the proverbial pan. i expect at this point the only thing that might ramp up the numbers to get anywhere near critical mass is charismatic leadership drumming people up. another summer of drought won't.
I genuinely just confused this bloke ^ (who I'm not at all familiar with) and Roger Allam - Wikipedia. 
LDC
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Novara discussion on climate change strategy with XR, JSO and Ende Gelände.
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This article gets mentioned in it, not had chance to read it yet I Would Simply Blow Up A Pipeline: the Left and Just Stop Oil
Strange interview, in theory about strategy, but actually doesn't really cover that in any depth at all. If anything just mentions tactics; no discussion about how change might happen. Some quite annoying bits of activist-type predictable perspectives on things as well.
Eat Sleep Protest Repeat | Novara Media
What's it going to take to save the planet? Clare Hymer gets strategic with activists from XR, Just Stop Oil and Ende Gelände.
novaramedia.com
This article gets mentioned in it, not had chance to read it yet I Would Simply Blow Up A Pipeline: the Left and Just Stop Oil
Strange interview, in theory about strategy, but actually doesn't really cover that in any depth at all. If anything just mentions tactics; no discussion about how change might happen. Some quite annoying bits of activist-type predictable perspectives on things as well.
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