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The John Sergeant 'coup'

AA Gillhttp://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article5162477.ece agrees with you Danny

AA Gill said:
One of the judges — the strangest collection of human effluvia this side of Grimms’ Fairy Tales — admonished us by saying we must remember this was a dancing competition.

Now, I think it’s time I called the old dancing judges, Cheryl and Simon into my office to remind them of a few home truths. Listen carefully, all of you. Strictly Come Dancing is not a dancing competition. The X Factor is not a talent contest. The Queen Vic is not a real pub, and Basil Brush isn’t actually a talking fox. They are all entertainments. Dragons’ Den isn’t real venture capitalism, and I’m a Celebrity. . . Get Me Out of Here! isn’t a real jungle or, indeed, real celebrity, and everybody there has been begging their agents to get them in it. You are all suffering from a common green-room delusion: you believe your own billing. You are not on television because you’re experts or gurus. You’re there because you’re either funny, hateful or shaggable, and if you’re in any doubt which, then it’s not the latter.

The public votes for what makes the best television. If that means dismissing a dull genius for amusing crapness, they’ll do it without thinking. Hands up anyone who remembers the name of the men’s ski-jump gold medallists the year Eddie the Eagle came last? Exactly. Who knows, who cares?
 
SCD is more hardcore, none of that snivelling over there.
Less of it, rather than none of it, to be fair. (I watch X Factor, too).

Look at Brendan, though. He knows it isn't just a dance competition; that's why he nurtures his Bad Boy of Dance image. That's why he puts in extra lifts when he knows full well they aren't allowed. He knows he has to appeal beyond the judges' table. It doesn't do it for me, but at least he gives more than a technically executed dance. He understands it's an entertainment show.

As they all do when they put in too much "faffing about" at the start of the paso, which Len doesn't like.

Take Rachel's dance last night. It got three tens, but pretty much bored me, because I don't care about her. She might be a lovely girl in real life, but on the screen she comes over as soul-dead. If it had been Aleesha last year, I'd have been out of my seat. Because she drew me in.
 
I reckon it will be Lisa and Brendon plus Christine and Matthew in the dance off. I think John will last another week or two then go. People on the BBC strictly forum were saying how John's voting number seemed always to be engaged so either lots of people were voting for him or the Beeb had blocked it :D

Hope it's not Jodie in the dance off - I think she is coming across really well and her outfit last night was beautiful
 
Just caught it on BBCi, missed first half last night.

Jodie, Rachel, Tom, Austin, Lisa and Christine were all excellent.

Cherie was good but not scintillating.

John was the best he has ever been but I do think the joke has run its course now...

*sigh*

My enjoyment is being spoiled by my annoyance at the injustice of it, with dancers I'd like to see more of getting the boot.
 
Thanks to Digital Spy I know who was in the bottom 2 and who got booted last night. Wish I could stop myself looking at the spoilers, it makes it less exciting on a Sunday night.

Of course once this is over we've got the ice skating to look forward to :cool:
 
Thanks to Digital Spy I know who was in the bottom 2 and who got booted last night. Wish I could stop myself looking at the spoilers, it makes it less exciting on a Sunday night.

Of course once this is over we've got the ice skating to look forward to :cool:


Skating is shite though.

please don't say who got binned, I've been looking forward to show all afternoon
 
That bruno needs a hair cut badly :mad:
He's had his hair cut badly! :p

What's unfair about the public voting for people they want to keep? That's how it works. It could just go on the judges' decisions. But it wouldn't be such a good show if it did.

It's sad for Cherie, but I'm not sorry to see James go; he's an arrogant arse.

Plus he's wrong: it isn't a dance competition; it's a celebrity dance show with a phone-in element.
 
They did get it wrong.

Cherie is older than John, worked super-hard and dances beautifully.

Cherie should have stayed.

John should have gone on a high; with a 7, a nice dance and the affection of the public. He is coming over as an arrogant arse now; the joke is so threadbare.

There is nobody left who is not final material: fuck off John, this is ruining my enjoyment of the show.
 
I'm loving watching that pompous Arlene woman trying not to sound desperately exasperated about the competition on Breakfast. They're stupid, archaic dancing styles that nobody really cares about love - there's amusement in the gaudy outfits and celebs for sure, but I'm afraid you'll have to deal with the fact that people aren't taking the programme or your stiff backed profession with the utmost of seriousity.

John to win!
 
Personally, I liked John and Kristinas waltz.:cool:

I still find it difficult to like Lisa and have found Cherie increasingly irritating, so I'm not too upset by the result tbh.

The public are still voting personality but that'll end soon. We'll end up with a fair result (and Austin winning I expect)
 
Personally, I liked John and Kristinas waltz.:cool:

It was supposed to be an American Smooth though. :p

I don't mind John staying in this week as I didn't really like Cherie, if he stays in next week though that will mean someone who is much better and more likeable (for me) will be going and then I will start getting cross.

I do find it amazing how everyone is getting so wound up about it though - it is only a TV show!!!!
 
oh trust me, the british public are cray when it comes to phone in's. i was working on the 100 operator service on the night of the first pop idol. people were phoning up and complaining that we didn't live in a democracy because they couldn't get through to vote for will young.
 
They did get it wrong.

Cherie is older than John, worked super-hard and dances beautifully.

Cherie should have stayed.
The public didn't put Cherie out - the judges did.

The public vote for their favourite couples. The bottom two then compete to win the judges' favours and stay in. Because it's a knockout competition somebody has to leave every week. Had it been John, then next week it'd be someone else, and we're told they all deserve to be in. Well, they can't be.

The trouble the judges have is that the public are using different criteria to make their choices.

I like John because he's entertaining. He seems to be enjoying himself (which, incidentally, is more than I can say for some of the "serious" competitors, who have taken on a steely resolve in their eyes as they see their chance at the trophy come closer). I don't give a bugger about well-executed fleckles. And, actually, the more the judges chunter on about how unfair it all is, the more I want John to stay in longer.

I've said it before: it isn't a dance purist show. There used to be a dance purist show: Come Dancing. It was boring, and nobody watched it.
 
The thing for me now is that John has got a bit boring. He was fun and entertaining but now I am much more interested in how, for instance, Jodie will do or how good Austin is. That, for me, is now a lot more entertaining than John and his fumbling.

His sweetness is wearing off. Though I do love Kristina's "Oh my god I don't believe it" reaction when they are kept in!:D
 
now I am much more interested in how, for instance, Jodie will do or how good Austin is.
If John goes, those factors would need to come further to the fore to keep me interested.

There are people I'm not interested in: Rachel and Lisa primarily. I wouldn't miss them at all.

And though I can see Tom is the best dancer (he hasn't had a bad week as poor as Austin's bad week), I find him irritating, so I don't really have a stake in his progress.
 
If John goes, those factors would need to come further to the fore to keep me interested.

There are people I'm not interested in: Rachel and Lisa primarily. I wouldn't miss them at all.

And though I can see Tom is the best dancer (he hasn't had a bad week as poor as Austin's bad week), I find him irritating, so I don't really have a stake in his progress.

I really, really liked Rachel's dance on Saturday, but otherwise she is rather dull and I just cannot warm to Lisa, or Brendon, I would be sorry to see them go as I think they are both good dancers but I'm not sure I would miss them, if you see what I mean. Except Vincent, I'd miss Vincent.
 
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