New, Nikon D850, 45.7MP you are going to need a bigger computer!

[weltweit]

Nikon D850 offers 45.7MP BSI FX-format sensor, 7 fps bursts, 4K video

Big in many ways, 45.7 Mpx and fast and with a great autofocus system.

The image files are going to be massive.

Aggressive pricing too, something like $3,300 in the USA, I don't know the UK price yet.

 

[mauvais]

It's about £3,500. Briefly considered it and decided that both it, and changing from DX to FX, was far too expensive.

 

[pogofish]

Already emailed my boss!

Apart from very limited situations, none of us liked the D5 very much, wheras the D800/810s have proved to be superbly versatile workhorses!

 

[FridgeMagnet]

7fps is supposed to be good?

 

[weltweit]

.. wheras the D800/810s have proved to be superbly versatile workhorses!

Would you recommend a used D800 then pogofish?
I read in reviews that perfect technique and the best lenses are required with it?

 

[pogofish]

Would you recommend a used D800 then pogofish?
I read in reviews that perfect technique and the best lenses are required with it?

I'd highly recommend one. In fact I have one myself and despite liking my work D810 even more, I am in absolutely no hurry to change it. See that it has had the firmware update installed (V-1.1 OTOH?) - that sorted-out a lot of the issues that dogged the original D800, notably the tendency to slightly defocus.

Perfect technique and lenses do of course help but I do ok with a range of lenses from several generations, back to the 1960s, although some are kept-on more for creative effect than anything else. With current-ish AF Nikkors, often the only difference between versions is in the electronics, esp where flash is involved - the lens itself is identical, so it depends how you work if it really matters. Similarly at work, we are re-equiping with the best we can afford but still keep a selection of old lenses in service till the money comes through to replace them - then there are all the specialised items that cost utterly silly money and won't be replaced in a hurry!

Perfect technique - Well, we are always striving for that, ain't we?

From my POV, the most essential extra with the D800 and 810 was the second battery grip - Made the camera much more practical power-wise and much more effective ergonomically. The cheap pixel-vertas grip on my own camera is indistinguishable in every way from the expensive nikon item on the work camera.

 

[weltweit]

Thanks for that pogofish, I had heard the D800 mirror slap was significant. UK used D800s are priced about £1k now, I have been weighing up my options between a D800 & D610, for a long time now, a consideration is that the NEFs are big and would probably need me to upgrade my PC.

 

[pogofish]

Yes - the mirror is the one thing where the D810 does beat the D800 hands down - its a much better damped/quieter mech on the D810 but despite this the 800 is still perfectly usable handheld in low light. My main issue was people complaining about the noise, not the images!

The NEFs may not be as bad as you think. I found them quite acceptable to work-on with even quite moderately specced PCs. Size, yes but imaging my original disc up to a bigger one solved that cheaply, or for my little laptop, picking-up an external hard disc in the sales to store images I'm not immediately working-on solved that one.

 

[weltweit]

.. The NEFs may not be as bad as you think. I found them quite acceptable to work-on with even quite moderately specced PCs. Size, yes but imaging my original disc up to a bigger one solved that cheaply, or for my little laptop, picking-up an external hard disc in the sales to store images I'm not immediately working-on solved that one.

I may be thinking of what people running lightroom, who work on many pictures at the same time, are telling me. Perhaps working on individual images one a time will be ok.

Good you say it is ok handheld in low light, but noisy huh, ok

 

[mauvais]

7fps is supposed to be good?

For its class it's competitive. The D5 does 12.

 

[editor]

For its class it's competitive. The D5 does 12.

The Sony A9 manages Continuous Shooting at up to 20fps for up to 241 RAW/ 362 JPEG images!

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Hmm, wonder what that'll do to D810 prices.

My D700 still works fine, but I think its past the point where they keep spares..

 

[sim667]

I love my D800, but by god does it chew up disk space.

 

[weltweit]

I love my D800, but by god does it chew up disk space.

sim667 can you tell me, how many mb is a full sized D800 raw?

 

[weltweit]

It is OK sim667, I have found it in the manual.

 

[Ted Striker]

(It's 28-35mb on a D750, according to my snaps)

 

[sim667]

sim667 can you tell me, how many mb is a full sized D800 raw?

Testing my knowledge here as I lost my manual ages ago, but I think its 70 MB.

 

[weltweit]

Testing my knowledge here as I lost my manual ages ago, but I think its 70 MB.

I can email it to you (as a pdf) I downloaded it from Nikon Europe.

 

[weltweit]

 

[pogofish]

Boss got back to me a few days ago and he agrees we need a D850 soon!

 

[weltweit]

On the filesize issue, I see 7dayshop are selling 1tb usb hdd for about £50... I think I am going to get one initially as an "uber" backup!

 

[abe11825]

Holy cow....

And here I thought about upgrading to the Canon T6 because I thought having Wifi capabilities would be cool... shooting video in 4k and having a 45.7 MP photo?? I can't... too much money! I've got too much already invested in Canon products. lol

 

[weltweit]

Holy cow....

And here I thought about upgrading to the Canon T6 because I thought having Wifi capabilities would be cool... shooting video in 4k and having a 45.7 MP photo?? I can't... too much money! I've got too much already invested in Canon products. lol

That Manual page I embedded is for the D800, the D850 files are larger again !!

 

[mauvais]

The one to refer to is the 14 bit lossless compressed, so 41.3MB. That might also be the theoretical maximum so a lot of files will be smaller. Certainly the 'shots remaining' count on any Nikon is conservative and from empty you can get about double what it says.

 

[abe11825]

That's sickening... the size of the photos. I question whether or not it is necessary, for those who are hobbyists. The professionals may love the new specs, but the price tag is a little "ouch". Imagine how many camera cards you're going to have to go through, or what size capacity will be made just for these new cameras? I reckon the cost of those will rocket up as well.

 

[sim667]

I can email it to you (as a pdf) I downloaded it from Nikon Europe.

That would be really handy please. Will PM you my email addy

 

[weltweit]

That would be really handy please. Will PM you my email addy

Actually it seems it is 24mb and my email/broadband can't cope so I propose to wetransfer it to you, hope that works better with a large file.

 

[weltweit]

sim667 that wetransfer seems to have failed.

The original pdf file is at Nikon | Download center | D800 perhaps it might be better to download it from there. Sorry.

 

[sim667]

sim667 that wetransfer seems to have failed.

The original pdf file is at Nikon | Download center | D800 perhaps it might be better to download it from there. Sorry.

Thank you!