Musicians you idolised as a teen who turned out to be dickheads

[Chick Webb]

An obvious one - Morrissey. I think I was still making excuses for his latest stupid outburst in my early 20s, but I've hated the guy for years at this stage. I don't feel much anymore when he comes out with his claptrap. There are still one or two of my old mates from my teen years who try to defend him.

I think it's easier to give up on someone you idolised when you were 16 than it is with someone you idolised when you were 12. I still have time for Dave Mustaine, and he's arguably way worse than Morrissey.

 

[DotCommunist]

marylin manson. A two bob nihilist whose shock value far outweighs his musical talent.

I still stick on 'Cake and Sodomy' occasionally though, cos the lyrics crack me up

 

[Reno]

marylin manson. A two bob nihilist whose shock value far outweighs his musical talent.

I still stick on 'Cake and Sodomy' occasionally though, cos the lyrics crack me up

Isn't that the impression one one would instantly get from his appearance ? That said, the few interviews I read with him, he came across as fairly level headed.

 

[Chick Webb]

marylin manson. A two bob nihilist whose shock value far outweighs his musical talent.

I still stick on 'Cake and Sodomy' occasionally though, cos the lyrics crack me up

Ha. I remember when I briefly thought he was genuinely depraved and fascinating.

 

[DotCommunist]

Isn't that the impression one one would instantly get from his appearance ? That said, the few interviews I read with him, he came across as fairly level headed.

I was 16

yeah he does come across straight when reading his non 'omg amrica- take this!' stuff- there was a good bit with him in 'Bowling for Columbine' also.

 

[Chick Webb]

Lots of Axl Rose's lyrics make me wince when I hear them these days, but then again it was obvious to me that he was a dickhead, even when I was 12.

 

[DotCommunist]

Lets also mention Jon Lennon here- profound as fuck when you knew no different, but on reflection an arrogant twat who thought the defeat of capital could be realised by not getting out of bed for a few days. I've had some epic lie-ins in my time and yet capital remains

 

[Reno]

David Bowie, if only for the Dancing in the Streets promo with Mick Jagger, which is one of the most horribly embarrassing things I've ever seen.

 

[Chick Webb]

David Bowie, if only for the Dancing in the Streets promo with Mick Jagger, which is one of the most horribly embarrassing things I've ever seen.

That was really bad, but you wouldn't really write off his whole career because of it would you?

 

[Reno]

That was really bad, but you wouldn't really write off his whole career because of it would you?

No, not being entirely serious. Still, that promo...

 

[Reno]

Donna Summer

 

[Chick Webb]

Donna Summer

What did she do to betray you?

 

[Reno]

What did she do to betray you?

After she became a born again Christian she shat on her gay fans, who were the first to buy her records and who were her most loyal, by stating that AIDS was god's punishment for them.

 

[Chick Webb]

After she became a born again Christian she shat on her gay fans, who were the first to buy her records and who were her most loyal, by stating that AIDS was god's punishment for them.

FFS! I'm always really disappointed when I hear a musician I like is religious, but that takes the biscuit!

That vaguely rings a bell actually. I think I heard it before.

 

[Reno]

Bryan Ferry: Tory twat and Nazi idoliser.

 

[Chick Webb]

FFS! I'm always really disappointed when I hear a musician I like is religious*

Unless it's Satanism

 

[Reno]

FFS! I'm always really disappointed when I hear a musician I like is religious, but that takes the biscuit!

That vaguely rings a bell actually. I think I heard it before.

It was a big thing at the time and seriously damaged her career. It has always come up in connection with her since. AIDS politicised the gay community at the time and they did not take to it kindly. There were public record burnings. The record company got her to deny she said it later on but there are enough people around who remember.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Bryan Ferry: Tory twat and Nazi idoliser.

Making it unsurprising that he fathered that right-wing dickhead Otis.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Unless it's Satanism

That's even more boring, frankly. You only have to look at Glenn Benton (of Deicide) for proof of that.

 

[Chick Webb]

That's even more boring, frankly. You only have to look at Glenn Benton (of Deicide) for proof of that.

I like Deicide. Glenn was always a bit of an eejit though.

Their lyrics (the ones I can make out) are actually quite good. I don't know if Glenn writes 'em though.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I like Deicide. Glenn was always a bit of an eejit though.

Their lyrics (the ones I can make out) are actually quite good. I don't know if Glenn writes 'em though.

I think he lost the plot a bit when he had the upside-down cross branded onto his forehead - it was WAYYYYY too try-hard!

 

[Chick Webb]

I think he lost the plot a bit when he had the upside-down cross branded onto his forehead - it was WAYYYYY too try-hard!

I shouldn't really say this, but I knew a kid who tried to copy that, but in the short hair at the side of his undercut, rather than on his forehead. The hot metal melted the hair and stuck to his skin, and he had to go to hospital.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Ouch!!!!

 

[Spymaster]

Bryan Ferry .... Nazi idoliser.

????

 

[Reno]

????

It's easily googled, but there you go:

http://www.virginmedia.com/music/features/worst-career-moves.php?page=2

 

[discokermit]

david ruffin.

i adored his voice but found out that in domestic disputes with tammi terrell he would get handy with a hammer. i still love the sound now but not in the same way.

i often have the argument with myself over how an artists personal life influences their work.

for instance, gary glitter. on the one hand, he's a dirty fucking nonce and i'm glad nobody buys his records anymore. on the other, he did produce some great tunes that have been written out of history.

 

[Spymaster]

It's easily googled, but there you go:

http://www.virginmedia.com/music/features/worst-career-moves.php?page=2

Fucking hell. I had no idea.

 

[Chick Webb]

david ruffin.

i adored his voice but found out that in domestic disputes with tammi terrell he would get handy with a hammer. i still love the sound now but not in the same way.

i often have the argument with myself over how an artists personal life influences their work.

for instance, gary glitter. on the one hand, he's a dirty fucking nonce and i'm glad nobody buys his records anymore. on the other, he did produce some great tunes that have been written out of history.

I can't listen to musicians who I hate the politics or personal lives of. I mean, just plain arseholes can be fine, but domestic violence? No.

I wouldn't say those tunes have been written out of history. I was at a gig not long ago (Giuda) and a few of his tunes were played beforehand. And I heard a colleague at work humming "D'ya Wanna be in my Gang" the other day. Hmmm, slightly dodgy, I thought on both occasions.

 

[discokermit]

I can't listen to musicians who I hate the politics or personal lives of. I mean, just plain arseholes can be fine, but domestic violence? No.

i try to justify the david ruffin thing by thinking "oh well, he's only the vocalist, at least he doesn't write the stuff", plus, he was seriously fucked in the head, had massive drug problems and had a seriously fucked up background. all this comes through in his voice, yet it's still one of the sweetest, most beautiful and moving sounds made by a man.

also, the temptations were more than one person, does that mean i have to dismiss the vocals of the others, and all the musicians, including my favourite bass player on occasion, because of the mental problems of the lead singer?

like i say, it's one i struggle with.

 

[Silva]

It's easily googled, but there you go:

http://www.virginmedia.com/music/features/worst-career-moves.php?page=2

tbh saying the image-obsessed nazis could put quite a show isn't in par with being a racist fuckhead like Crapton or racial supremacist like Vikernes.

He and his sons are still posh tory wankers, anyway.