Motorcycle Licence

[Jackobi]

According to this:

http://www.licencecheck.co.uk/category_codes

Category A is any size motorcycle with or without a sidecar. What type of motorcycle would someone who is over 21 with a provisional, category A licence be entitled to ride?

 

[Radar]

According to this:

http://www.licencecheck.co.uk/category_codes

Category A is any size motorcycle with or without a sidecar. What type of motorcycle would someone who is over 21 with a provisional, category A licence be entitled to ride?

125 on their own, or any size bike under Direct Access. (https://www.gov.uk/rules-motorcyclists-83-to-88/motorcycle-licence-requirements)

I believe there's changes coming in next year which will tighten thing up further.

 

[Epona]

According to this:

http://www.licencecheck.co.uk/category_codes

Category A is any size motorcycle with or without a sidecar. What type of motorcycle would someone who is over 21 with a provisional, category A licence be entitled to ride?

On a provisional licence, 125 is the upper limit. That's why 125 and under vehicles are often more expensive to buy, because there's a massive market for them amongst provisional license holders. I have an absolutely gorgeous museum condition (engine great as well as bodywork) Lambretta Innocenti 1969 DL/GP 125cc (original Italian Inksplot decal) with all original badges and decals, original aquamarine paint job with stripes as it was straight out of the factory, utterly fucking spotless, if you can spare £4k to buy it off me I'll sell it to you

 

[geminisnake]

125 on their own, or any size bike under Direct Access. (https://www.gov.uk/rules-motorcyclists-83-to-88/motorcycle-licence-requirements)

I believe there's changes coming in next year which will tighten thing up further.

125 ONCE you have a CBT certificate. If you do not pass your test within 2 yrs you have to do another CBT CBT can either stand for compulsory basic training or complete bollocks tax, you choose

 

[Jackobi]

I have an absolutely gorgeous museum condition (engine great as well as bodywork) Lambretta Innocenti 1969 DL/GP 125cc (original Italian Inksplot decal) with all original badges and decals, original aquamarine paint job with stripes as it was straight out of the factory, utterly fucking spotless, if you can spare £4k to buy it off me I'll sell it to you

A Lambretta isn't quite what I had in mind, I was thinking more along the lines of an old Honda CG, CB or XL 125 to zip around on. But thanks for the offer!

 

[Jackobi]

125 ONCE you have a CBT certificate. If you do not pass your test within 2 yrs you have to do another CBT CBT can either stand for compulsory basic training or complete bollocks tax, you choose

I'm not sure that this applies to me. I've just traded in my old, green, paper licence for a photo licence. On the old licence it had my provisional A category on the licence itself, but now it only has the provisional entitlement on the counterpart.

According to the counterpart I have had provisional, category A entitlement since 1985 and it states until 2038. I passed my car test in 1986 so have been driving for 26 years, I think because I passed my car test so long ago, it gives me unlimited, provisional category A entitlement (or at least until I am 70 (2038)) without a CBT. I can also drive a 7.5 ton truck without any additional test.

 

[Radar]

I'm not sure that this applies to me. I've just traded in my old, green, paper licence for a photo licence. On the old licence it had my provisional A category on the licence itself, but now it only has the provisional entitlement on the counterpart.

According to the counterpart I have had provisional, category A entitlement since 1985 and it states until 2038. I passed my car test in 1986 so have been driving for 26 years, I think because I passed my car test so long ago, it gives me unlimited, provisional category A entitlement (or at least until I am 70 (2038)) without a CBT. I can also drive a 7.5 ton truck without any additional test.

Seems the "I have a car licence since XXXX" thing only relates to riding a moped, so you'd need a CBT resit every two years if you didn't intend taking one of the full bike tests (theory + practical)

http://www.begin-motorcycling.co.uk/law.htm
https://www.gov.uk/cbt-compulsory-basic-training/overview

When you don’t need to take CBT

If you passed your car driving test before 1 February 2001 you don’t need to take CBT to ride a moped.
Mopeds have a maximum engine size of 50cc and a maximum speed of approximately 31mph.
You also don’t have to take CBT if you:

• have a full moped licence from passing a full moped test after 1 December 1990
• have a full motorcycle licence for one category and want to upgrade to another
• live and ride on some offshore islands

 

[geminisnake]

I'm not sure that this applies to me.

Unfortunately as Radar points out it bloody does I know because I hoped I could get away with no CBT. You try getting insurance without one
And mopeds can go faster than 31, but it seems to depend on the moped and the size of the rider. If you weigh less than 10 stone you can get 40 out of some

 

[XR75]

You could also ride piaggio mp3 300 lt on a cars provisional but insurance companies are morons so you're stuck with the 125cc motorbike version.

 

[XR75]

Oh and as someone said all the bike laws get changed for worse next year except for moped cars that place like france have had for a while.

 

[gentlegreen]

Here's an instructor trying to explain it :-



I'm so relieved I took my test in 1980...

 

[Jackobi]

Unfortunately as Radar points out it bloody does I know because I hoped I could get away with no CBT. You try getting insurance without one
And mopeds can go faster than 31, but it seems to depend on the moped and the size of the rider. If you weigh less than 10 stone you can get 40 out of some

What a load of bollocks. It means that at some point I have had my entitlement to ride a 125 revoked. As when I passed my car test, that entitled me to ride a 125 indefinitely.

 

[gentlegreen]

Not that I have any intention of getting on a motorcycle again, but I hope I won't be disqualified because I switched exclusively to a pushbike for a decade or three - ditto my car license.
Mind you it'd be complicated by being in France ...

 

[geminisnake]

What a load of bollocks. It means that at some point I have had my entitlement to ride a 125 revoked. As when I passed my car test, that entitled me to ride a 125 indefinitely.

I know. It pissed me off too

 

[Kanda]

No-one should be allowed on the road straight away after a CBT, it's better than nothing though.

I done my CBT in July, I've had a car licence and driven for 20 yrs, which helps. As soon as the weather gets better i'll be doing Direct Access.

Letting someone out that hasn't even been on roads with just a CBT is In my opinion just a bit mad.

 

[19sixtysix]

What a load of bollocks. It means that at some point I have had my entitlement to ride a 125 revoked. As when I passed my car test, that entitled me to ride a 125 indefinitely.

A car test gave you full moped licence and provisional motorcycle but you didn't pass your test you lost the later. You may still have the former. From wiki

The term moped describes any low-powered motor driven cycle with an engine capacity not greater than 50 cc (3.1 cu in) and a maximum design speed of no more than 50 km/h (31 mph). Machines registered prior to 1 September 1977 as mopeds had to have pedals, but engine power was unrestricted, and many could top 50 mph (80 km/h) (most famously the Yamaha FS1-E or "Fizzy").
A provisional license, full motorcycle or car license is needed to operate a moped. An additional Compulsory Basic Training (CBT) certificate is also required to ride a moped on public roads, except for anyone who obtained their full car driving license before 1 February 2001.

 

[DownwardDog]

You could also ride piaggio mp3 300 lt on a cars provisional but insurance companies are morons so you're stuck with the 125cc motorbike version.

Only the MP3 LT with the wider front wheels.

 

[XR75]

No-one should be allowed on the road straight away after a CBT, it's better than nothing though.

I done my CBT in July, I've had a car licence and driven for 20 yrs, which helps. As soon as the weather gets better i'll be doing Direct Access.

Letting someone out that hasn't even been on roads with just a CBT is In my opinion just a bit mad.

Why it's not that much harder than cycling.