Louise Haigh mobile phone story

[tommers]

Can we not do this conspiracy nonsense about Starmer being behind her going?

Louise Haigh ‘told to quit by No 10 over possible breach of ministerial code’

Sources say UK transport secretary was advised by Keir Starmer’s chief of staff it would be best for her to resign

www.theguardian.com

Looks like it was McSweeney as go-between (at least)

They're so weird.

 

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The second sentence doesn't make sense. It says that investing £1b in bus services, and lowering costs for motorists, are ways in which she has made strides to take the rail system back into public ownership.

All best wishes. That could only be written by teuchter

 

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[Spymaster]

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That is quite funny, but for the millionth time, SHE DIDN'T GET DONE FOR PHONE THEFT.

 

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You do exaggerate sometimes

 

[brogdale]

That is quite funny, but for the millionth time, SHE DIDN'T GET DONE FOR PHONE THEFT.

Indeed, her undoing was for something far more serious...actually calling out 1 neoliberal enterprise for anti-worker practices. Can't have that in the Starmer party.

 

[Spymaster]

Indeed, her undoing was for something far more serious...actually calling out 1 neoliberal enterprise for anti-worker practices. Can't have that in the Starmer party.

I thought we'd finally found some common ground Broggers, but you had to have that little dig at St Keir at the end

 

[PTK]

I've posted on here before about my late FiL who did such a thorough job of filching stationary when he left his LCC school in 1965 that we still have supplies 59 years later! Top work.

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Bravo!

 

[PTK]

Sorry, the unbelievable bit of this is that she made a mistake? And not that she turned the phone on and that rang some alarm at the Metropolitan Police and they then arrested her? Like there was a crack team of detectives sat monitoring her work mobile phone? "Sarge! It's come back on! We're getting a signal!" "Yes! Get that team that tracks locations to track the location! We've finally got her!"

"Get me the Chief Constable. This is serious".

 

[PTK]

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The second sentence doesn't make sense. It says that investing £1b in bus services, and lowering costs for motorists, are ways in which she has made strides to take the rail system back into public ownership.

There should be a comma after bus services.

 

[Wilf]

Can we not do this conspiracy nonsense about Starmer being behind her going?

Louise Haigh ‘told to quit by No 10 over possible breach of ministerial code’

Sources say UK transport secretary was advised by Keir Starmer’s chief of staff it would be best for her to resign

www.theguardian.com

Looks like it was McSweeney as go-between (at least)

Labour's vetting process sounds like the Inquisition, but run by Alan Partridge.

 

[Cloo]

Amateur! In America you can be a sex offender, fraudster and stir up an insurrection and get re-elected President!

How come Elon Musk isn't on Twitter insisting this is a sign of Britain's slide into dictatorship?

 

[Wilf]

Amateur! In America you can be a sex offender, fraudster and stir up an insurrection and get re-elected President!

How come Elon Musk isn't on Twitter insisting this is a sign of Britain's slide into dictatorship?

Ah but the tentacles of Aviva extend into the highest realms of power.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I thought we'd finally found some common ground Broggers, but you had to have that little dig at St Keir at the end

It’s more a statement of fact than a dig. She was a dead woman walking the minute she (rightly) highlighted the scandalous employment practices of P&O.

She’d also, I read, written to Starmer about Reeves cuts to non-protected departments.

Amazingly, weeks later an ancient event regarding two phones is leaked to the media.

 

[gosub]

It’s more a statement of fact than a dig. She was a dead woman walking the minute she (rightly) highlighted the scandalous employment practices of P&O.

She’d also, I read, written to Starmer about Reeves cuts to non-protected departments.

Amazingly, weeks later an ancient event regarding two phones is leaked to the media.

Can't have been Starmer. He's in the Middle East looking for investment

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Can't have been Starmer. He's in the Middle East looking for investment

 

[Artaxerxes]

Labour's vetting process sounds like the Inquisition, but run by Alan Partridge.

The thing is she told him when she was appointed to the job apparently


It all feels really weird, maybe because we’re not used to someone just actually resigning at this point given the last 14 years

 

[ouirdeaux]

You do exaggerate sometimes

Billions of times.

 

[gosub]

The thing is she told him when she was appointed to the job apparently

I heard that too

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Labour's vetting process sounds like the Inquisition, but run by Alan Partridge.

Yes, but also this:

 

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[teuchter]

Yes, but also this:

"Worse than Stalin"

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Her 20s only ended seven years ago, tbf - this seems like an exceptionally low-level scandal and not worth resigning over, but I don't have a problem with politicians' past fraud convictions being exposed

Someone making a mistake and thinking something had been stolen in, say, a mugging or burglary or whatever, and reporting an item stolen in the confusion/immediate aftermath, which subsequently turns out not to have been stolen, is fairly understandable, surely.

That would be a low level scandal.

It's the conviction, it's the being charged in the first place and then pleading guilty that bumps this up from low level scandal to 'Very strange, wtf went on there then?' mid-level scandal, and then when put into the context of Keir politicians aren't above the law Starmer and how he was informed and knew about Haigh's conviction before her cabinet appointment was confirmed, that bumps it further up the scandals league.

I mean if someone pads out an insurance claim, claiming more items were stolen, like 'Yeah, my purse/wallet has gone, house keys, makeup bag... and also an expensive diamond ring, a gold necklace, an iPad, FitBit, washing machine, cuddly toy...'

Something like that would seem more obviously suspect.

So it's really weird that someone was charged and convicted on the basis of one item that could/should have been 'Oh, wasn't stolen after all, I thought it was in my bag, but I'd actually left it on my desk/in my coat pocket! Oops! My bad! Sorry about that!'

And why did the solicitor advise her to plead guilty if it was a genuine mistake? That doesn't make sense.

I can't imagine why someone would (a) be charged; and (b) plead guilty, in such circumstances, if they weren't actually guilty.

And all the 'it was historic offence' when it was only 10-ish years ago, it's not like a juvenile record has been unearthed or an MP in their sixties was found to have done something in their late teens/early twenties, that would be a long time ago.

 

[Spymaster]

It’s more a statement of fact than a dig. She was a dead woman walking the minute she (rightly) highlighted the scandalous employment practices of P&O.

She’d also, I read, written to Starmer about Reeves cuts to non-protected departments.

She sounds like a bit of a trouble-maker, tbh.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Your second bit sums it up, imo.

She tried to nick the phone. She probably came clean to her brief, so he gave her that advice (he can’t advise her to lie, so he said say nothing).

It’s correct that it’s come to public attention; she’s an elected politician. People who vote for politicians should be made aware of their criminal backgrounds regardless of the severity, and make their own decisions. It is after all, a conviction for fraud, regardless of the seriousness.

Most probably wouldn’t give a toss about a spent conditional discharge from 10 years ago but that’s their call, not hers or Starmer’s.

She’s resigned because they didn’t come clean about it; not because it happened.

It's often the cover-up that's more problematic than the original misdeed or offence.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Nah. Someone probably grassed her. She’s not denying that this happened, so somehow the police found out that she still had the phone before she ‘got the chance’ to tell them.

She was a little bit naughty as a youngster over a decade ago and got a slap on the wrist. No big deal. She was a plastic plod after that, so the conviction didn’t bother the old bill. Bullshitting now makes an issue of it though.

I thought she was a plastic plod before the conviction? PCSO 2009-2011 and the conviction was 2013?

 

[The39thStep]

It’s more a statement of fact than a dig. She was a dead woman walking the minute she (rightly) highlighted the scandalous employment practices of P&O.

She’d also, I read, written to Starmer about Reeves cuts to non-protected departments.

Amazingly, weeks later an ancient event regarding two phones is leaked to the media.

The Telegraph article may be speculative however it also has some plausible elements to it.

https://archive.ph/zqMKd

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

For all his faults, Hitler never bullshitted about losing a mobile phone. Something that's often overlooked when people slag the guy off.

And he was a vegetarian, so he wasn't all bad.

 

[Wilf]

Yes, but also this:

Louise, could you post up your Tripadvisor review of the Chestnut Tree Cafe?

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Starmer mugged an old lady for her phone and then punched a copper?! was DPP when the CPS bungled Ian Tomlinson case, which led to a cop getting away with killing a random innocent passerby during G8 protests, and Starmer was also DPP when the prosecution failed to disclose the direct involvement of a 'spycop' in the Drax power station protests, which led to a second trial being abandoned and several wrongful convictions from a first trial, which had to be overturned and the defendants acquitted, and he presided more generally over a cover up of the 'Spycops' scandal. String him up!!!

There. Fixed that for you.