Loughborough Junction public space improvements - consultation begins
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bimble
floofy
Before my account with the website expires, please take 30 seconds to complete this tiny survey on the experimental road closures if you haven't done so yet.
It's worded in a totally non partizan way and I'd like submit it to relevant people soon.
Survey is here: Loughborough Junction Experimental Road Closures Survey
Results so far are here: Loughborough Junction Experimental Road Closures
It's worded in a totally non partizan way and I'd like submit it to relevant people soon.
Survey is here: Loughborough Junction Experimental Road Closures Survey
Results so far are here: Loughborough Junction Experimental Road Closures
LadyV
Well-Known Member
Firstly, outside the launderette? Really? I wouldn't have thought that there would be room for it without blocking the road, also wouldn't have thought it would be an overly effective place to catch people.
Secondly if the car is there, obviously there are no fixed cameras on the CHL/LR junction, so it's as I thought, the council are being negligent in the one thing that you would think they would be eager to do, collect money. Whether you like the closure or not, the signage is now very clear and most locals are now observing it. So the people still going through are just not reading the signs and for that lack of observance they should really be fined.
But for the fact that I don't want to risk a £130 fine, I'd almost be tempted to drive through when the car isn't there and see what happens because if you only get snapped when the car is there, that could completely undermine the whole experiment. Another possible example of Lambeth's inability to organise anything properly, I'm sure a troop of chimpanzees could do a better job of it!
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Has anyone actually received a penalty notice?
LadyV
Well-Known Member
Someone a while ago on here had a warning letter but not seen any fines, most people don't want to risk it but I see quite a few cars going through who haven't noticed signs or don't care
bimble
floofy
critical1
All views expressed are definitely my own.
They already have or are planning the infrastructure to go with it.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Which are they? That link doesn't work (at least for me)
snowy_again
Slush
Oslo, Paris, Madrid, Brussels, Dublin, Milan.
bimble
floofy
I think that stuff is very interesting and positive (the sort of things in the article above, major infrastructure change to reduce pollution, encourage alternatives to private car use and so on).
Just have to repeat, though I know people think I'm paranoid or maybe just wrong:
This particular experiment - if it was lets say a pilot project, a vanguard part of a considered city wide agenda to achieve those things, it would look very different.
It would for instance (just one point) have included some methodology to see whether or not pollution levels got better after the closures.
Instead we get the opposite, an evaluation plan which goes to great lengths to NOT show any change in pollution in the area, apart form on one single (closed) road.
How please does that make sense, if this is part of a clean air agenda in London ?
Just have to repeat, though I know people think I'm paranoid or maybe just wrong:
This particular experiment - if it was lets say a pilot project, a vanguard part of a considered city wide agenda to achieve those things, it would look very different.
It would for instance (just one point) have included some methodology to see whether or not pollution levels got better after the closures.
Instead we get the opposite, an evaluation plan which goes to great lengths to NOT show any change in pollution in the area, apart form on one single (closed) road.
How please does that make sense, if this is part of a clean air agenda in London ?
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bimble
floofy
This is interesting: It shows you the ratio of chicken shops to artesanal coffee shops in different parts of London, so you can work out where's "up and coming".
How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops
But the really funny bit is .. Guess where I got the link? An email from Lambeth Council! (true story)
How to know if where you live is “up and coming”: fried chicken vs. coffee shops
But the really funny bit is .. Guess where I got the link? An email from Lambeth Council! (true story)
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
As swathes of London get "de-industrialised" - especially including the changing use being envisioned for even non street-facing railway arches - and some of the so-called "reclaimed" space used for housing development, the marketing requirement for creating an ambience around such developments will increase, and the attribution of a "village" vibe to a development helps do that for the developers and their shills.
bimble
floofy
like hipster is the new word for yuppie?Often it's just the new word for 'Estate'
Hipsters are like Santa, they don't really exist.
Whereas I really do live on an estate that claims to be a village :thumbs :
LadyV
Well-Known Member
I got that email too, haven't had time to fully digest it, I have a feeling it will annoy me so I might not bother!
bimble
floofy
I think you're wise Lady V. It has left me with a bit of a tummy ache.
LadyV
Well-Known Member
LJ does reasonably well on this, we don't have lots of chicken shops, we have a couple of coffee shops and we have a bike repair shop rather than a £1 store, can't comment on the price of coriander bunches, never buy the stuff but we definitely fail on the quinoa front, still haven't been able to find it in local stores which should keep us safe from certain groups of people for a while! God help us if we get a Little Waitrose though, who knows who will move in!
bimble
floofy
LJ does reasonably well on this, we don't have lots of chicken shops, we have a couple of coffee shops and we have a bike repair shop rather than a £1 store, can't comment on the price of coriander bunches, never buy the stuff but we definitely fail on the quinoa front, still haven't been able to find it in local stores which should keep us safe from certain groups of people for a while! God help us if we get a Little Waitrose though, who knows who will move in!
The price of coriander bunches.. I haven't got much of a clue what to do with it (bit like aubergines) but really don't want to live in a place where it's only available in pre-packed plastic pouches with brand names on.
3 bunches for a pound I think, like spinach, for now, up and down electric avenue, freshly sprinkled with water to keep it from wilting.
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CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
LJAG partly responsible for that. Mounted a vigorous campaign when someone applied for planning permission to turn it into a fast food outlet. Not sure what they did when the next prospect wanted a Tatoo Parour - but as we know they went to more macho part of LJ - hence we now have the cycle shop!
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
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