Loughborough Junction public space improvements - consultation begins

[bimble]

Those rubber lines that count cars, there's one appeared overnight here too (Flaxman road).
Anyone know what they are doing (I mean why now)?

EDIT: Question is here because the locations are not the same as the 'before' counting locations and there are a very lot less of them. So thought maybe this counting is unconnected to the road closures .

 

[teuchter]

irf520 I am glad that your observations of Amsterdam have helped you understand that in comparison London is a big city with a very restricted amount of road space.

So it is even more important for us, than it is there, to use that limited infrastructure as efficiently as possible. We need to massively reduce the number of private road vehicles that are clogging it up and slowing everyone else down.

 

[teuchter]

Those rubber lines that count cars, there's one appeared overnight here too (Flaxman road).
Anyone know what they are doing (I mean why now)?

I just can't think what they could be doing.
Before the scheme started Lambeth announced they would be doing traffic counts before the experimental period, and once the experiment was running.
They did traffic counts before the start.
The experient is now running.
We observe that Lambeth are doing traffic counts again.
No, I still can't work out why there are traffic counts being done now.
It's such a mystery.

 

[bimble]

Thanks Teuchter, you are kind.
But .. the rubber lines are in very different places and far fewer places than they were when they counted the cars before the experiment.
And I was also curious why now, whether it is part of the thing about the evaluation being brought forward. But thank you all the same.

 

[teuchter]

Always happy to be of assistance.

 

[bimble]

The list of locations for the car counting has 3 different spots on St James' crescent on it.
Are there 3 sets of rubber lines there does anyone know?

 

[teuchter]

I walked into Brixton via St James Crescent earlier today, looking for havoc and chaos but could find none. I do realise it was not a weekday rush hour though.

 

[bimble]

I walked into Brixton via St James Crescent earlier today, looking for havoc and chaos but could find none. I do realise it was not a weekday rush hour though.

So you did not notice 3 sets of rubber lines there ?
Does that mean this is not the traffic count you suggested helpfully above ? I don't know.

 

[teuchter]

I didn't notice.
They might not be putting them all in at the same time. The ones on Herne Hill Rd appeared a few days ago.

 

[bimble]

That's true, they might not be able to afford to do them all at the same time now, though they did do that before the experiment. Maybe they can't afford to do them all this time anyway, just a few here and there.
I can't help but wonder, have you always been a person with an innate faith in the council / authorities to generally do things well and rationally?

 

[teuchter]

Why do you think I have an innate faith in the council or other authorities to generally do things well and rationally?

 

[bimble]

Because of the things you write here. Just this page is an example but all down this thread, it does look like you have a sort of unshakable trust that Lambeth is doing a pretty good job of implementing a noble strategy, or something.

 

[teuchter]

Because of the things you write here. Just this page is an example but all down this thread, it does look like you have a sort of unshakable trust that Lambeth is doing a pretty good job of implementing a noble strategy, or something.

Maybe to someone who can't read english and is simultaneously having halucinations. Is that you?

Where even on this page do I demonstrate an unshakable trust that Lambeth is doing a good job of implementing this?

 

[bimble]

Maybe to someone who can't read english and is simultaneously having halucinations. Is that you?

That must be me.

 

[concerned1]

There are no counts on Barrington Road from Loughborough Road up to the P5 / cycles only point this is a very busy road now as traffic coming up Loughborough Road have to use it now.

 

[bimble]

I think the rubber lines that are currently around may be to do with the 20 mph speed limit that's coming next month & not part of evaluating the effects of the LJ road closures.

Lambeth Goes 20mph - guide | Lambeth Council

 

[critical1]

I think the rubber lines that are currently around may be to do with the 20 mph speed limit that's coming next month & not part of evaluating the effects of the LJ road closures.

Lambeth Goes 20mph - guide | Lambeth Council

So much for a coordinated approach to this project, its all just randomly put together, no coordination of any sort... Makes one wonder what happens if they did try....

 

[bimble]

It's true. Or if someone proper like Teuchter was in charge .

 

[LadyV]

It's true. Or if someone proper like Teuchter was in charge .

Please stop with that idea.

 

[LadyV]

Was walking down Loughborough Road from 5 ways this afternoon, they have the monitoring things across the road too

 

[bimble]

This 20mph limit that's coming next month to all council roads in Lambeth (apparently at a cost of £700,000 worth of street signs .. that's the business to be in) , that on its own sounds like it would have done a lot to make Loughborough Road & the junction more pedestrian friendly, that and a nice big zebra crossing.

20mph borough wide speed limit expected to be introduced by Lambeth Council at a cost of £700,000 for street signs and road markings

 

[concerned1]

Loads of drivers ignore 20mph signs it is like crawling along can cycle faster oh oops cyclists meant to obey speed rules or are they haha

 

[prunus]

Loads of drivers ignore 20mph signs it is like crawling along can cycle faster oh oops cyclists meant to obey speed rules or are they haha

Yes they are and largely will.

So, to be clear: it seems you're against the 20mph limit as well as the road closures?

 

[bimble]

So, to be clear: it seems you're against the 20mph limit as well as the road closures?

I think your question was directly to concerned1 but just to clarify:
Me I'm happy about 20mph, would have liked to just add a big zebra crossing in front of Wyck gardens. That way there might even have been some money left over to do a bit of pavement widening. But I don't really like those chairs that point in random directions which seem to be the latest thing in public spaces round here, I mean the ones that don't have buses and cyclists driving around in them of course.

 

[critical1]

Loads of drivers ignore 20mph signs it is like crawling along can cycle faster oh oops cyclists meant to obey speed rules or are they haha

They have speed restrictions also in the USA my observational research suggests that it leads to an increase in drug dealers selling whatever from car windows.

 

[teuchter]

That's a new one on me. Speed limits will attract drug dealers. You couldn't make it up. You really couldn't.

 

[bimble]

They have speed restrictions also in the USA my observational research suggests that it leads to an increase in drug dealers selling whatever from car windows.

I got offered weed by a cyclist who looked about 11 yesterday. Maybe the drugs and transport equation can remain open..

 

[prunus]

They have speed restrictions also in the USA my observational research suggests that it leads to an increase in drug dealers selling whatever from car windows.

Ah. You're either taking the piss or seriously deluded.

 

[bimble]

Ah. You're either taking the piss or seriously deluded.

I thought people were at liberty to do both at the same time here. You want to make it an either or situation?

 

[bimble]

here's a totally irrelevant bit of Sunday niceness about Coldharbour Lane before gentrification was even a thing.. (old photo is from somewhere U75 and writing's from a book called Brixton memories). won't do this again I promise