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Larry Noppius said:
That's not what I said. By far the largest majority of posters who haven't been banned probably haven't been banned because they already had a position that was congruent with the "community values" and hence were never "threatened" with a ban to change their position.
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Evidence? And before you provide it please define the community values of which you speak.
 
Larry Noppius said:
That's not what I said. By far the largest majority of posters who haven't been banned probably haven't been banned because they already had a position that was congruent with the "community values" and hence were never "threatened" with a ban to change their position.
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Bunch of fakers
 
kenny g said:
Evidence? And before you provide it please define the community values of which you speak.
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As for community values, chilango would be in the best position to define those properly as he's the one who brought them up. Best as I can tell they are 1) don't be "dickhead", 2) don't be "boring", and 3) don't "attack" existing posters. As for evidence that the largest majority of non-banned posters haven't been threatened with a ban, not only would that seem the appropriate null hypothesis due to self-selection mechanisms (ie people tend to form social groups with people who share their values) but a read of this and a couple of other threads shows such threats to be a rare occurence.
 
DarkEther said:
Video statement regarding the complaints about the bookfair being put on by a new collective (and one that has been critical of some of the prior bookfairs actions/inactions).
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This kind of smug bullshit does not help you and your little authoritarian neo-liberal sudo anarchists, but keeps in line to the way you handle calling people out (or not handle but fuck up badly!) and your transparent attempts to own anarchism . It's like you think you know better than everybody who came before you . Arrogant, ineffective, egotistical, no-solidarity, no class-conciousness(i aint buying your fake shit) .... absolutely useless in ruck ... cultists; thats you.
 
RTWL said:
This kind of smug bullshit does not help you and your little authoritarian neo-liberal sudo anarchists, but keeps in line to the way you handle calling people out (or not handle but fuck up badly!) and your transparent attempts to own anarchism . It's like you think you know better than everybody who came before you . Arrogant, ineffective, egotistical, no-solidarity, no class-conciousness(i aint buying your fake shit) .... absolutely useless in ruck ... cultists; thats you.
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Who is who? Which side are the Freedom lot?
 
I am just airing criticism at the attitude of .... i though i made it quite clear... these authoritarian neo-liberal sudo anarchist lot that have been hanging about for a bit now.

When you mentioned Freedom guess you are implying that every stall holder/associate is a paid up member of their movement and I have no grounds levelling criticism ?
 
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Who are the authoritarian neo-liberal sudo anarchists? The dude sharing a meme video? I mean seems a bit of an over reaction but ok.
 
TopCat said:
Do they mean pseudo not sudo? The latter being a meth ingredient.

Anyway who are who?
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You know who i mean. Partly the BookFair organizers , mostly just a trend in radical culture that's blossomed over the past 10 years or so characterized by an authoritarian attitude and an unforgiving and often inaccurate call out culture. I don`t know what to call them. When ever I go round their squats their like ... no dogs ... no smoking ... no drinking ect. When they come to our meetings they usually try to enforce the same shit... in our spaces. I dunno ... is that clear?

I did think the phrase authoritarian neo-liberal pseudo anarchist (or ANPA) was quite good :(
 
RTWL said:
You know who i mean. Partly the BookFair organizers , mostly just a trend in radical culture that's blossomed over the past 10 years or so characterized by an authoritarian attitude and an unforgiving and often inaccurate call out culture. I don`t know what to call them. When ever I go round their squats their like ... no dogs ... no smoking ... no drinking ect. When they come to our meetings they usually try to enforce the same shit... in our spaces. I dunno ... is that clear?

I did think the phrase authoritarian neo-liberal pseudo anarchist (or ANPA) was quite good :(
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what stops you going outside for a cigarette? Radical culture eh
 
MadeInBedlam said:
what stops you going outside for a cigarette? Radical culture eh
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Yes .. i have never taken the piss... we would help them out with evictions and tools n that . It`s just when people come into your space to have a chat and then demand you put out the spliff or put down the beer ... tis a little unfriendly.
 
RTWL said:
Yes .. i have never taken the piss... we would help them out with evictions and tools n that . It`s just when people come into your space to have a chat and then demand you put out the spliff or put down the beer ... tis a little unfriendly.
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Its fucking arrogant and hugely self entitled.
 
RTWL said:
Yes .. i have never taken the piss... we would help them out with evictions and tools n that . It`s just when people come into your space to have a chat and then demand you put out the spliff or put down the beer ... tis a little unfriendly.
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sorry im not familiar with radical spaces.

Who went to whose space?
 
Well, personally I can`t bear living with most of the people I would put in this category for cultural reasons, so when living in shops and social centres I would always squat with the punks who were mainly anarchist. Some of the authoritarian brigade would always be set up elsewhere in the city . When they came round to ours for a chat they would try and enforce their safe-space liberal stuff . We would laugh. Different cities and groups but same trends. This is in the uk .
 
RTWL said:
Well, personally I can`t bear living with most of the people I would put in this category for cultural reasons, so when living in shops and social centres I would always squat with the punks who were mainly anarchist. Some of the authoritarian brigade would always be set up elsewhere in the city . When they came round to ours for a chat they would try and enforce their safe-space liberal stuff . We would laugh. Different cities and groups but same trends. This is in the uk .
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sound like wankers. Why have them round your place?
 
cos we resonated on certain things . And well... I personally support a lot of their political aims . Solidarity .
 
Are there any squats and social centres any more? I wish there were. Even though I first recollect no drugs and drinking signs in such places in the early 2000''s.

Exporting such demanding behaviour to some one elses front room always did seem to irk.
 
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