Urban75 Home About Offline BrixtonBuzz Contact

Live! Falcon Heavy, world's most powerful rocket, maiden flight

NASA is pork for senators with aerospace jobs in their district. It is ossified by bureacracy and a paralysing fear of change (in the name of safety). They should stick to research and discovery, and stay the hell out of actual spaceflight.
This. Their manned spaceflight drowns in politics. Still well ahead on the unmanned interplanetary exploration front though.
 
There's no biosphere up there to damage. What is the concern? You can't see it from Earth, and it's trajectory is known so it's not a navigation hazard for future missions.
It's trajectory is changeable... Once it's finished its gig they can boot it in into the sun
 
02062018_spacex2_132459-780x439.jpg

....This is Ground Control to Major Tom
You've really made the grade
And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear
Now it's time to leave the capsule if you dare
"This is Major Tom to Ground Control
I'm stepping through the door
And I'm floating in a most peculiar way
And the stars look very different today
For here
Am I sitting in a tin can
Far above the world
Planet Earth is blue
And there's nothing I can do...

:thumbs:
 
It would take more ^V to keep it where it is... (SwiftKey no Alt J)
No it would take additional deltaV, that the upper stage doesn’t have, to lower aphelion, or alternatively arrange a gravity assist. It’ll stay in a heliocentric orbit for many many millions of years. Though there is a slim change it’ll impact a co-orbiting Apollo asteroid or similar. Not that it’ll be recognisable for much longer - the plastics will already be outgassing in the extreme UV environment, despite the barbecue roll, and getting roasted in the van Allen belts.

Musk confirms loss of core in post-flight press conference - impacted ocean at around 300mph as only centre engine lit and not side engines, missing barge by around 100m.
 
Last edited:
No it would take additional deltaV, that the upper stage doesn’t have, to lower aphelion, or alternatively arrange a gravity assist. It’ll stay in a heliocentric orbit for many many millions of years. Though there is a slim change it’ll impact a co-orbiting Apollo asteroid or similar. Not that it’ll be recognisable for much longer - the plastics will already be outgassing in the extreme UV environment, despite the barbecue roll, and getting roasted in the van Allen belts.

Musk confirms loss of core in post-flight press conference - impacted ocean at around 300mph as only centre engine lit and not side engines.
Bit of a stupid question given all the amazing tech on display, but where was Space Oddity playing (inside the car?) and how long is it expected to play for? And yes, I know that in space no one can hear your Major Tomfoolery.
 
Bit of a stupid question given all the amazing tech on display, but where was Space Oddity playing (inside the car?) and how long is it expected to play for? And yes, I know that in space no one can hear your Major Tomfoolery.
No idea. Maybe it’s an MP3 looping on the in-car entertainment system? Maybe it’s being fed into the audio stream from their production facilities? *shrugs*

If the former, I won’t be surprised if that gets fried in the van Allen belts around about now (at this moment the car is climbing back to apogee over the Indian Ocean). e2a: The battery driving the cameras and downlink (and thus any audio) will only last another 12 hours or so anyway.
 
Last edited:
No it would take additional deltaV, that the upper stage doesn’t have, to lower aphelion, or alternatively arrange a gravity assist. It’ll stay in a heliocentric orbit for many many millions of years. Though there is a slim change it’ll impact a co-orbiting Apollo asteroid or similar. Not that it’ll be recognisable for much longer - the plastics will already be outgassing in the extreme UV environment, despite the barbecue roll, and getting roasted in the van Allen belts.

Musk confirms loss of core in post-flight press conference - impacted ocean at around 300mph as only centre engine lit and not side engines.

Is the radioactive flux in the Van Allen belts strong to melt plastic?
 
Is the radioactive flux in the Van Allen belts strong to melt plastic?
The energetic protons and electrons in the lower belts may fry the car electronics (I wouldn’t be surprised if the car was largely gutted for this exercise though). They will damage plastics too but not as rapidly as the UV. However the stream will end long before you notice any significant damage as the upper stage battery supply will run down. The car would likely look a little used if inspected near aphelion.
 
NASA is pork for senators with aerospace jobs in their district. It is ossified by bureacracy and a paralysing fear of change (in the name of safety). They should stick to research and discovery, and stay the hell out of actual spaceflight.

Trump has naturally claimed credit for this regardless. I’d wager a lot of the scientists working on it were not actually American and Elon musk sure as hell isnt.

 
Last night’s insertion burn to heliocentric orbit seen from Arizona on an all sky camera around 0230GMT (the upper stage plus Tesla is the object moving low from the West to the South, right to bottom):
 
More value in putting something with some immediate scientific return.

It's his rocket..
His car..
His idea...
His money...
His whimsy.

It represents what humans are becoming...money grubbing car obsessed dummies...


Screenshot_20180207-075858.png

Eta...it's heading for the asteroid belt...
 
Elon Musk said on a conference call with reporters that the launch "seems to have gone as well as one could have hoped with the exception of center core. The center core obviously didn't land on the drone ship" and he said that "we're looking at the issue." Musk says that the core ran out of propellant, which kept the core from being able to slow down as much as it needed for landing. Because of that, the core apparently hit the water at 300MPH, and it was about 100 meters from the ship. "It was enough to take out two thrusters and shower the deck with shrapnel," Musk said. That should be worth seeing on video: "We have the video," Musk confirmed, "it sounds like some pretty fun footage... if the cameras didn't get blown up as well."
 
The batteries in the cameras will run out this morning ? I'm sad that we don't get to tune in and see how he's doing for at least a few days (yes i know this is silly). What might it look like in a week - would the car's metal get bent out of shape and will the spacesuit stay pristine white?
 
I am sure it has been mentioned but the speakers wull not generate actual sounds that could be heard as it's a vacuum out there, is that not true?

Starman, Rocket Man, Space Oddity, Master of the Universe, just thinking of suitable songs
 
The batteries in the cameras will run out this morning ? I'm sad that we don't get to tune in and see how he's doing for at least a few days (yes i know this is silly). What might it look like in a week - would the car's metal get bent out of shape and will the spacesuit stay pristine white?

Car body is a composite structure, fibreglass, carbon fibre, also the only material that could damage it will be dust, UV light and other radiation will be more damaging i would think.
 
How much has it cost you?

With cosmologists and astronomers the world over vying for time on various telescopes he could have slung some data there way to help out the overall effort of advancing our scientific understanding....rather than chuck a car up there...he could have maybe put some instruments on the car at least to send back some useful data for someone to use.

But don't get me wrong, the rocket is an awesome achievement and I'm very glad space exploration has been given a boost by someone and I'm amazed how much Musk has accomplished so quickly compared to NASA, I'm more disappointed at NASA for not reaching this type of re usability by now. Just...........a car in space?
 
Back
Top Bottom