lopsidedbunny
Active Member
FreeBenghazi Libya.elHurra News conference with the Colonel from Jaloo concludes. http://bit.ly/ikvas5 #Libya #AlHurra-TV
Libya - civil unrest & now NATO involvement
- Thread starter ernestolynch
- Start date
lopsidedbunny
Active Member
The statement as read by the colonel translation will come shortly
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Good article here on how Benghazi fell to the revolution
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41794067/ns/world_news-mideast/n_africa/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41794067/ns/world_news-mideast/n_africa/
lopsidedbunny
Active Member
bombing a brodcasting station in sirte is being reported
lopsidedbunny
Active Member
ditto
lopsidedbunny
Active Member
From Tripoli: wiating on you guys to come and help us
lopsidedbunny
Active Member
He the guy behind the desk type there other shots outside are different people.
lopsidedbunny
Active Member
members of committee popular of Nalout said : many towns of west libya are prepared walk on Tripoli... many towns of the west of libya prepared operation on Tripoli...
lopsidedbunny
Active Member
josemig: A defected army officer teaches the use of an anti-aircraft gun to civilians who have volunteered to join the rebel army in Benghazi February 27, 2011. The rebel army is preparing to fight Libyan lead
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
Where is all this info coming from lopsidedbunny? It's not very coherent
elbows
Well-Known Member
Yes Im pretty sure it is, they have been there for just over a week now with the same setup. At the court building in Benghazi, and they even have an outside broadcast team of sorts.
lopsidedbunny
Active Member
hlk01: Of course Gaddafi tried to stage "pro" demonstrations to show to the media, but it didn't take. #Libya
hlk01: I'd like you to know that Azawiya, since being liberated, never fell back to Gaddafi really. They were just limited incursions. #Libya
hlk01: Sorman still has Gaddafi units positioned there. Problematic coz they can attack Azawiya or move to block the road to Gharyan.
hlk01: Gaddafi has a battalion at the town of Al-Mayah (also called Km 27) on the road between Azawiya and Tripoli. #Libya
hlk01: Of course Gaddafi tried to stage "pro" demonstrations to show to the media, but it didn't take. #Libya
hlk01: I'd like you to know that Azawiya, since being liberated, never fell back to Gaddafi really. They were just limited incursions. #Libya
hlk01: Sorman still has Gaddafi units positioned there. Problematic coz they can attack Azawiya or move to block the road to Gharyan.
hlk01: Gaddafi has a battalion at the town of Al-Mayah (also called Km 27) on the road between Azawiya and Tripoli. #Libya
hlk01: Moving into Tripoli, the Green Square area is like a camp: tanks, infantry, snipers, mercenaries
sali7: hlk so tanks from tripoli are outside city now?
hlk01: Nasr street, which is between Fashloum and the Green Square, has snipers.
hlk01: Mitiga airport, rumored to have fallen, is in fact a Gaddafi stronghold. He has infantry and tanks there.
hlk01: As for Tajoura, popularly it has fallen, but Gaddafi units can still be seen there. They look dispersed and not very organized.
sali7: Arathorn794 i dont think so . but there were some before. maybe they come back
hlk01: Now to make this easy for you guys to visualize, I'll work on a detailed western #Libya/Tripoli area map so you can place these events.
arathorn794: @sali7 thanks
hlk01: Still within Tripoli, there have been strange activity at Mitiga airport. Suspect that more mercenaries have just been brought in.
hlk01: Also heard about attempts to fly in "supporters" from Sabha, of course paying them handsomely. Don't know how that went.
hlk01: Moving on to the living conditions in Tripoli...Shops are closed, even the ones that are open have almost no stock left. Still open are mostly pharmacies and food stores.
hlk01: Today many people in #Tripoli headed to banks; they insist it's not coz they support the freak, it's coz they're low on food at home.
hlk01: Rumors that "schools have opened in #Tripoli" are regime propaganda. No one is crazy enough to let his children out
hlk01: My contact says three youths they know were asked at gunpoint to call TV stations and report that "everything is quiet and normal."
hlk01: After they made the calls, their mobiles were taken away. They were told to stay at home, or will be shot.
hlk01: They're lucky to be alive.
hlk01: I posted yesterday, about the protester killed in Al-Hani district (http://bit.ly/eLsieh); I have more info about the man.
hlk01: He's recently married, his wife is 7-months pregnant with their first child. They live in Tajoura. His funeral was today.
hlk01: The atmosphere in Tajoura in particular is very very tense. People ready to pounce at any moment. Ripe for revolution.
hlk01: People who had previous come to Tripoli (visiting) from nearby towns are now urged not to go back. The road is not safe
hlk01: >>>>>>And incoming international calls are tracked by the regime. That puts the person being called in danger <<<<<<<
hlk01: That said, it's probably safe to call people in the east or even in Misurata by phone.
hlk01: OK so that was my report. There's a lot more going on that I won't say, in order not to compromise people on the ground.
hlk01: People in #Tripoli have internet, but only through the regime connections. That means Facebook & Twitter blocked.
hlk01: However most people in #Libya are used to using proxies and have perfected the art of reaching "blocked" sites.
hik01: Iyad El-Baghdadi I have exciting news about Ghadamis, it seems that it's finally flying the independence flag! #Libya
hlk01: I'd like you to know that Azawiya, since being liberated, never fell back to Gaddafi really. They were just limited incursions. #Libya
hlk01: Sorman still has Gaddafi units positioned there. Problematic coz they can attack Azawiya or move to block the road to Gharyan.
hlk01: Gaddafi has a battalion at the town of Al-Mayah (also called Km 27) on the road between Azawiya and Tripoli. #Libya
hlk01: Of course Gaddafi tried to stage "pro" demonstrations to show to the media, but it didn't take. #Libya
hlk01: I'd like you to know that Azawiya, since being liberated, never fell back to Gaddafi really. They were just limited incursions. #Libya
hlk01: Sorman still has Gaddafi units positioned there. Problematic coz they can attack Azawiya or move to block the road to Gharyan.
hlk01: Gaddafi has a battalion at the town of Al-Mayah (also called Km 27) on the road between Azawiya and Tripoli. #Libya
hlk01: Moving into Tripoli, the Green Square area is like a camp: tanks, infantry, snipers, mercenaries
sali7: hlk so tanks from tripoli are outside city now?
hlk01: Nasr street, which is between Fashloum and the Green Square, has snipers.
hlk01: Mitiga airport, rumored to have fallen, is in fact a Gaddafi stronghold. He has infantry and tanks there.
hlk01: As for Tajoura, popularly it has fallen, but Gaddafi units can still be seen there. They look dispersed and not very organized.
sali7: Arathorn794 i dont think so . but there were some before. maybe they come back
hlk01: Now to make this easy for you guys to visualize, I'll work on a detailed western #Libya/Tripoli area map so you can place these events.
arathorn794: @sali7 thanks
hlk01: Still within Tripoli, there have been strange activity at Mitiga airport. Suspect that more mercenaries have just been brought in.
hlk01: Also heard about attempts to fly in "supporters" from Sabha, of course paying them handsomely. Don't know how that went.
hlk01: Moving on to the living conditions in Tripoli...Shops are closed, even the ones that are open have almost no stock left. Still open are mostly pharmacies and food stores.
hlk01: Today many people in #Tripoli headed to banks; they insist it's not coz they support the freak, it's coz they're low on food at home.
hlk01: Rumors that "schools have opened in #Tripoli" are regime propaganda. No one is crazy enough to let his children out
hlk01: My contact says three youths they know were asked at gunpoint to call TV stations and report that "everything is quiet and normal."
hlk01: After they made the calls, their mobiles were taken away. They were told to stay at home, or will be shot.
hlk01: They're lucky to be alive.
hlk01: I posted yesterday, about the protester killed in Al-Hani district (http://bit.ly/eLsieh); I have more info about the man.
hlk01: He's recently married, his wife is 7-months pregnant with their first child. They live in Tajoura. His funeral was today.
hlk01: The atmosphere in Tajoura in particular is very very tense. People ready to pounce at any moment. Ripe for revolution.
hlk01: People who had previous come to Tripoli (visiting) from nearby towns are now urged not to go back. The road is not safe
hlk01: >>>>>>And incoming international calls are tracked by the regime. That puts the person being called in danger <<<<<<<
hlk01: That said, it's probably safe to call people in the east or even in Misurata by phone.
hlk01: OK so that was my report. There's a lot more going on that I won't say, in order not to compromise people on the ground.
hlk01: People in #Tripoli have internet, but only through the regime connections. That means Facebook & Twitter blocked.
hlk01: However most people in #Libya are used to using proxies and have perfected the art of reaching "blocked" sites.
hik01: Iyad El-Baghdadi I have exciting news about Ghadamis, it seems that it's finally flying the independence flag! #Libya
elbows
Well-Known Member
Well I was, because it seemed too good to be true, and he wasnt actually saying anything that gave me much of an idea what was going on, and Benghazi had only just been confirmed as free. The guy that came on after him that night, who I believe was a well known lawyer or human rights activist, gave clearer info that same night so my suspicions quickly faded.
lopsidedbunny
Active Member
It's coming from the "Chat Zone" on the above link they are lacking translators and lots of people chatting so the translating was "difficult" to try and find translators that could translate quick enough. They speak too quickly the General was reading from a script and awaiting a translation some someone. I think the person they are looking for was his Birthday today
getting hold of him was hard.
elbows
Well-Known Member
lopsidedbunny are you getting that stuff from the chatroom of the benghazi tv channel? Most of the good stuff you've pasted above is actually from twitter user iyad_elbaghdadi who has been providing an update for today via many tweets, although he has said he is being careful now not to tweet about anything ongoing in case the info helps the regime.
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
it's the same person
elbows
Well-Known Member
It's coming from the "Chat Zone" on the above link they are lacking translators and lots of people chatting so the translating was "difficult" to try and find translators that could translate quick enough. They speak too quickly the General was reading from a script and awaiting a translation some someone. I think the person they are looking for was his Birthday today
As best I could tell, most of the info did get translated. There was a military man from a place that I believe started with a J, which sounds like a desert oasis location with oil facilities. He didnt say very much of interest really, just that his troops were with the people, protecting that location & the oil facilities. He didnt want to talk about numbers. He said that he cutoff communication with the loyal regime military when the uprising began. Someone asked him about African mercenaries and he just said it was a standard Gaddafi tactic.
The script that the studio man read too fast sounded very much like the latest statement from the Libyan National Council that was formed in Benghazi and was already reported about by some other sources - it was basically trying to contradict the impression that comments from one of the ex-regime people who joined the council said recently, something about forgiving Gaddafi's sons and whether this council is a replacement government, sentiments others in Benghazi obviously have issue with so they were trying to make clear that this stuff was just the personal opinions of one man and not their official position.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
Here's a tiny little article about him.
http://feb17.info/videos/i-am-not-afraid-to-die-i-am-afraid-to-lose-the-battle/
In other trivia apparently UN sanctions were the first unanimous and first where the country in question has voted in favour. I note that it was the anti-gadafi deputy there rather than the rather more pro gadafi representative.
http://feb17.info/videos/i-am-not-afraid-to-die-i-am-afraid-to-lose-the-battle/
In other trivia apparently UN sanctions were the first unanimous and first where the country in question has voted in favour. I note that it was the anti-gadafi deputy there rather than the rather more pro gadafi representative.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Ghadamis in the far west right near the border is reported to be free.
There also seems to be confirmation that Gaddafi's nurse that was mentioned in the wikileaks has arrived home:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/27/libya-muammar-gaddafi-nurse-ukraine
There also seems to be confirmation that Gaddafi's nurse that was mentioned in the wikileaks has arrived home:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/27/libya-muammar-gaddafi-nurse-ukraine
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
With their assets widely frozen, are they now backed into a corner? I'm thinking that they now only have one option, stay and fight to the death, just as they have suggested that they will. What happens to the frozen billions, does it eventually go back to the Libyan people?
elbows
Well-Known Member
Well Libya didnt vote because it was a security council vote, and they are not on that council at the moment. (Security council is the 5 permanent members plus 10 other countries which change every so often, each of these gets voted in for terms of 2 years and cannot be re-elected again straight away). But it was Libya that requested the security council meet, and asked them to do stuff, which was probably unprecedented.
As for the Libya UN rep, rather than his deputy, there were totally unconfirmed reports of gunfire from the farm he has in Libya yesterday - family of these people are one consideration for why some may not have wanted to resign straight away. By all accounts when he finally came out against Gaddafi in the UN it was an emotional affair and tears were shed.
lopsidedbunny
Active Member
big cock by the Libyans they flew a plane load of weapons into the hands of the revolutionary youth after reports of the airport being capture by the Libyans... (I find that hard to believe so how! I wonder if it's been flow in by supporters)
source: http://www.libyafeb17.com/?p=2928
(I find that hard to believe so how! I wonder if it's been flow in by supporters)source: http://www.libyafeb17.com/?p=2928
classicdish
Well-Known Member
Just to confirm the source of the posts above, here's a bunch of tweets I've gathered together from @iyad_elbaghdadi today (all times approximate GMT) who for me is one of the most reliable and thoughtful twitter-media people at the moment: http://twitter.com/#!/iyad_elbaghdadi
0900: Activists in UK were harassed & threatened. Their websites sustained hack attempts. #Libya
1300: ...there are Gaddafi tanks heading from Sirt to Misurata
1400: Biggest stories over the past few hours: Gaddafi attacks on Misurata and Azawya. #Libya
1900:
> Alright guys, here's the update now. #Libya
> First, some clarification about the morning's news regarding Azawiya, Misurata and Benghazi. #Libya
> I gather the tanks heading from Sirt to Misurata have positioned on the road and did not proceed. Over 100 kms from Misurata. #Libya
> As for news that tanks are heading from Sirt to Benghazi, that's just a rumor. Could even be deliberate disinformation. #Libya
> I have confirmation that Zlitan has been reoccupied by Gaddafi. It's unclear how many units he has there. #Libya
> There were attacks on Misurata today, apparently to try to capture it and "show it off" to "touring media" #Libya
> Today's attacks on Misurata seem to have been targeted at the local radio station from which the rebels have been broadcasting.
> BTW, about Benghazi, don't worry about it because stepping there would mean Gaddafi loses his entire army. It's very well defended.
> As for Azawiya, there were attacks yesterday, also apparently to capture it and "show it off" to media. Failed, as you now know.
> Of course Gaddafi tried to stage "pro" demonstrations to show to the media, but it didn't take. #Libya
> I'd like you to know that Azawiya, since being liberated, never fell back to Gaddafi really. They were just limited incursions.#Libya
> Sorman still has Gaddafi units positioned there. Problematic coz they can attack Azawiya or move to block the road to Gharyan. #Libya
> Gaddafi has a battalion at the town of Al-Mayah (also called Km 27) on the road between Azawiya and Tripoli. #Libya
> That includes tanks and infantry. He's blocking the way between Azawiya and Tripoli that way. #Libya
> Moving into Tripoli, the Green Square area is like a camp: tanks, infantry, snipers, mercenaries. #Libya
> Nasr street, which is between Fashloum and the Green Square, has snipers. #Libya
> Mitiga airport, rumored to have fallen, is in fact a Gaddafi stronghold. He has infantry and tanks there. #Libya
> As for Tajoura, popularly it has fallen, but Gaddafi units can still be seen there. They look dispersed and not very organized. #Libya
> Now to make this easy for you guys to visualize, I'll work on a detailed western #Libya/Tripoli area map so you can place these events.
> Still within Tripoli, there have been strange activity at Mitiga airport. Suspect that more mercenaries have just been brought in.
> Also heard about attempts to fly in "supporters" from Sabha, of course paying them handsomely. Don't know how that went. #Libya
> Moving on to the living conditions in Tripoli... #Libya
> Shops are closed, even the ones that are open have almost no stock left. Still open are mostly pharmacies and food stores. #Libya #Tripoli
> Today many people in #Tripoli headed to banks; they insist it's not coz they support the freak, it's coz they're low on food at home. #Libya
> Rumors that "schools have opened in #Tripoli" are regime propaganda. No one is crazy enough to let his children out. #Libya
> My contact says three youths they know were asked at gunpoint to call TV stations and report that "everything is quiet and normal." #Libya
> After they made the calls, their mobiles were taken away. They were told to stay at home, or will be shot. #Libya
> They're lucky to be alive. #Libya
> I posted yesterday, about the protester killed in Al-Hani district (http://bit.ly/eLsieh); I have more info about the man. #Libya
> He's recently married, his wife is 7-months pregnant with their first child. They live in Tajoura. His funeral was today. #Libya
> The atmosphere in Tajoura in particular is very very tense. People ready to pounce at any moment. Ripe for revolution. #Libya
> People who had previous come to Tripoli (visiting) from nearby towns are now urged not to go back. The road is not safe. #Libya
> OK, more about life in #Tripoli right now. #Libya
> Several sources have provided me with phone numbers, but it's dangerous so I refused to call. I don't want to put them in danger. #Libya
> People in #Tripoli can call each other, but cannot make outgoing international calls. #Libya
> And incoming international calls are tracked by the regime. That puts the person being called in danger. #Libya
> That said, it's probably safe to call people in the east or even in Misurata by phone. #Libya
> OK so that was my report. There's a lot more going on that I won't say, in order not to compromise people on the ground. #Libya
> Main effort I'll do now is try to put together a map showing (from multiple sources) where Gaddafi men are. #Libya
> People in #Tripoli have internet, but only through the regime connections. That means Facebook & Twitter blocked. #Libya
> Most people in #Libya are used to using proxies and have perfected the art of reaching "blocked" sites. #Tripoli
> My contacts for the most part are using satellite internet + proxies + anonymizers. #Libya
> I have exciting news about Ghadamis, it seems that it's finally flying the independence flag! #Libya
> Waiting for Sabha, that will be a game-changer. #Libya
1945:
Guys I'm having twitter issues. Better go now. See you tomorrow.
0900: Activists in UK were harassed & threatened. Their websites sustained hack attempts. #Libya
1300: ...there are Gaddafi tanks heading from Sirt to Misurata
1400: Biggest stories over the past few hours: Gaddafi attacks on Misurata and Azawya. #Libya
1900:
> Alright guys, here's the update now. #Libya
> First, some clarification about the morning's news regarding Azawiya, Misurata and Benghazi. #Libya
> I gather the tanks heading from Sirt to Misurata have positioned on the road and did not proceed. Over 100 kms from Misurata. #Libya
> As for news that tanks are heading from Sirt to Benghazi, that's just a rumor. Could even be deliberate disinformation. #Libya
> I have confirmation that Zlitan has been reoccupied by Gaddafi. It's unclear how many units he has there. #Libya
> There were attacks on Misurata today, apparently to try to capture it and "show it off" to "touring media" #Libya
> Today's attacks on Misurata seem to have been targeted at the local radio station from which the rebels have been broadcasting.
> BTW, about Benghazi, don't worry about it because stepping there would mean Gaddafi loses his entire army. It's very well defended.
> As for Azawiya, there were attacks yesterday, also apparently to capture it and "show it off" to media. Failed, as you now know.
> Of course Gaddafi tried to stage "pro" demonstrations to show to the media, but it didn't take. #Libya
> I'd like you to know that Azawiya, since being liberated, never fell back to Gaddafi really. They were just limited incursions.#Libya
> Sorman still has Gaddafi units positioned there. Problematic coz they can attack Azawiya or move to block the road to Gharyan. #Libya
> Gaddafi has a battalion at the town of Al-Mayah (also called Km 27) on the road between Azawiya and Tripoli. #Libya
> That includes tanks and infantry. He's blocking the way between Azawiya and Tripoli that way. #Libya
> Moving into Tripoli, the Green Square area is like a camp: tanks, infantry, snipers, mercenaries. #Libya
> Nasr street, which is between Fashloum and the Green Square, has snipers. #Libya
> Mitiga airport, rumored to have fallen, is in fact a Gaddafi stronghold. He has infantry and tanks there. #Libya
> As for Tajoura, popularly it has fallen, but Gaddafi units can still be seen there. They look dispersed and not very organized. #Libya
> Now to make this easy for you guys to visualize, I'll work on a detailed western #Libya/Tripoli area map so you can place these events.
> Still within Tripoli, there have been strange activity at Mitiga airport. Suspect that more mercenaries have just been brought in.
> Also heard about attempts to fly in "supporters" from Sabha, of course paying them handsomely. Don't know how that went. #Libya
> Moving on to the living conditions in Tripoli... #Libya
> Shops are closed, even the ones that are open have almost no stock left. Still open are mostly pharmacies and food stores. #Libya #Tripoli
> Today many people in #Tripoli headed to banks; they insist it's not coz they support the freak, it's coz they're low on food at home. #Libya
> Rumors that "schools have opened in #Tripoli" are regime propaganda. No one is crazy enough to let his children out. #Libya
> My contact says three youths they know were asked at gunpoint to call TV stations and report that "everything is quiet and normal." #Libya
> After they made the calls, their mobiles were taken away. They were told to stay at home, or will be shot. #Libya
> They're lucky to be alive. #Libya
> I posted yesterday, about the protester killed in Al-Hani district (http://bit.ly/eLsieh); I have more info about the man. #Libya
> He's recently married, his wife is 7-months pregnant with their first child. They live in Tajoura. His funeral was today. #Libya
> The atmosphere in Tajoura in particular is very very tense. People ready to pounce at any moment. Ripe for revolution. #Libya
> People who had previous come to Tripoli (visiting) from nearby towns are now urged not to go back. The road is not safe. #Libya
> OK, more about life in #Tripoli right now. #Libya
> Several sources have provided me with phone numbers, but it's dangerous so I refused to call. I don't want to put them in danger. #Libya
> People in #Tripoli can call each other, but cannot make outgoing international calls. #Libya
> And incoming international calls are tracked by the regime. That puts the person being called in danger. #Libya
> That said, it's probably safe to call people in the east or even in Misurata by phone. #Libya
> OK so that was my report. There's a lot more going on that I won't say, in order not to compromise people on the ground. #Libya
> Main effort I'll do now is try to put together a map showing (from multiple sources) where Gaddafi men are. #Libya
> People in #Tripoli have internet, but only through the regime connections. That means Facebook & Twitter blocked. #Libya
> Most people in #Libya are used to using proxies and have perfected the art of reaching "blocked" sites. #Tripoli
> My contacts for the most part are using satellite internet + proxies + anonymizers. #Libya
> I have exciting news about Ghadamis, it seems that it's finally flying the independence flag! #Libya
> Waiting for Sabha, that will be a game-changer. #Libya
1945:
Guys I'm having twitter issues. Better go now. See you tomorrow.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
I wonder what that's about? This is the the UK not Libya and Gadaffi's goons should be the ones harassed and threatened here not democracy activists. There might be some potential for solidarity work around this if anyone has any information. Something along the lines of harassing the harassers.
Similar threads
- Locked
- Poll
