Libya - civil unrest & now NATO involvement

[Lock&Light]

What makes you think they are going to get a say in it. A western puppet regime is about to be installed and it will bloody well do as its told

While that is one scenario there are others equally likely.

 

[Pickman's model]

While that is one scenario there are others equally likely.

such as?

 

[Tankus]

Well, they're not getting paid.

more worried about a bullet ..perhaps

 

[goldenecitrone]

What makes you think they are going to get a say in it. A western puppet regime is about to be installed and it will bloody well do as its told

Did you have the same sentiments when the Eastern bloc collapsed? Are the ex-communist countries all ruled by western puppet regimes? Why won't the Libyans be able to sort out their own country after their dictator is overthrown.

 

[dylans]

While that is one scenario there are others equally likely.

Yes there are other scenarios. The TNC could be overthrown by Islamists

 

[dylans]

Did you have the same sentiments when the Eastern bloc collapsed? Are the ex-communist countries all ruled by western puppet regimes? Why won't the Libyans be able to sort out their own country after their dictator is overthrown.

Because Libyans didn't overthrow their leader. NATO did. The rebels were window dressing

 

[goldenecitrone]

do you think he's going to address a great fuck off crowd in the middle of tripoli in the middle of the bloody night? at his age?

I meant the being captured, taken out and shot bit. I don't think he'd get much of a crowd.

 

[Lock&Light]

Yes there are other scenarios. The TNC could be overthrown by Islamists

It's wise not to be overly optimistic, but you, I fear, are debilitated by the force of your pessimism.

 

[Tankus]

wonder whats going to happen to moussa ibrahim

 

[Pickman's model]

I meant the being captured, taken out and shot bit. I don't think he'd get much of a crowd.

the phrase 'ceausescu moment' ime refers to the moment when someone loses control, like when the crowd booed him and he couldn't muster a response.

 

[Lock&Light]

wonder whats going to happen to moussa ibrahim

What sentence did 'Comical Ali' get?

 

[dylans]

It's wise not to be overly optimistic, but you, I fear, are debilitated by the force of your pessimism.

After the fall of Saddam I predicted a civil war and sectarian bloodshed and I was told I was being too pessimistic then too.

 

[Pickman's model]

After the fall of Saddam I predicted a civil war and sectarian bloodshed and I was told I was being too pessimistic then too.

it wasn't bloody nato who toppled saddam hussein despite your earlier claim.

 

[Tankus]

wiki "Although questioned by American authorities, al-Sahhaf was released, and there has been no suggestion of charging or detaining him for his role in the Saddam Hussein government. He is now living in the United Arab Emirates with his family"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf

Somehow ...I dont see this for Moussa

 

[dylans]

it wasn't bloody nato who toppled saddam hussein despite your earlier claim.

No, you are quite correct. It was the "coalition of the willing" which amounted to the same thing

 

[Tankus]

I feel quite optimistic for the Libyans , they don't have an Iran ,Turkey or Pakistan sitting on their doorsteps ... going to get a good income from the oil (Italy) and gas , the Americans are distanced ...got more of a chance than Egypt methinks

 

[goldenecitrone]

the phrase 'ceausescu moment' ime refers to the moment when someone loses control, like when the crowd booed him and he couldn't muster a response.

It's when they get taken out by their own soldiers and get machine-gunned that I think about. And they can't understand why their own people would do this to them.

 

[elbows]

What sentence did 'Comical Ali' get?

I seem to recall they let him go and retire to the UAE or something.

 

[Pickman's model]

No, you are quite correct. It was the "coalition of the willing" which amounted to the same thing

you thick fuck.

there are clear rules governing the north atlantic treaty organisation, and deployments under its aegis must be passed at some nato council.

no such deployment was agreed.

france and germany are core nato members. both opposed the invasion of iraq and did not send troops. neither did belgium.

the invasion of iraq, unlike the invasion of afghanistan, had nothing to do with nato.

 

[goldenecitrone]

the invasion of iraq, unlike the invasion of afghanistan, had nothing to do with nato.

And nato only came in later in afghanistan, to help mop up the mess caused by Rumsfeld's stupid plans.

 

[elbows]

Live images from green square are quite lively, lots of shooting at green symbols of the regime.

 

[Pickman's model]

And nato only came in later in afghanistan, to help mop up the mess caused by Rumsfeld's stupid plans.

as i recall very shortly after 9/11 nato invoked the article in the treaty which involved the bit about an attack on one member being an attack on all.

 

[dylans]

you thick fuck.

Who the fuck do you think you are talking to you obnoxious fucking troll.

right, there is no ignore button on here but take this on notice. I will not read or respond to another post by you you fucking cunt. consider yourself on ignore.

 

[binka]

After the fall of Saddam I predicted a civil war and sectarian bloodshed and I was told I was being too pessimistic then too.

out of interest who told you that?

 

[Pickman's model]

Who the fuck do you think you are talking to you obnoxious fucking troll.

you.

you're equating 'the coalition of the willing' and nato, when there are clear differences - among them australia not being a member of nato. as i've said, both germany and france are core members of nato, but both of them opposed the invasion of iraq and did not send troops.

 

[binka]

interesting that sky news have a reporter out on the streets sitting on the back of a pick up truck while the bbc man is reporting from his hotel room.

as for butchers questions about people self organising the woman on sky reporting live from the streets said that locals had erected barricades at the entrances to their residential areas

 

[dylans]

you.

fuck off cunt. This is the only response you will ever get from me again, Got it.

 

[Pickman's model]

fuck off cunt. This is the only response you will ever get from me again, Got it.

and that stops you being a thick twat how?

 

[dylans]

and that stops you being a thick twat how?

fuck off cunt, This is the only response you will ever get from me again. Got it

 

[binka]

fuck off cunt, This is the only response you will ever get from me again. Got it

will you respond to my question then?