Laurence Fox. The twat.

[Ax^]

Perhaps I and most of my friends are old social media hating technophobes, but whenever one gets (rightly) fucked off by his endless offensive tripe, it is always worth remembering that millions of people are barely aware of who he is, let alone read his tweets. He’s a complete insignificance in the real world and will always be.

like everyone else who appear frequently on GB news and all the other members of the reclaim party really

 

[tim]

One of his minions has just been arrested for crimes against political correctness, apparently.



LOCK HIM UP!

 

[edcraw]

One of his minions has just been arrested for crimes against political correctness, apparently.



LOCK HIM UP!

Guess it’s this guy.



Rather worryingly one of the police officers seems to have a blue lives matter flag on their uniform. Should’ve been right up his street.

 

[Lurdan]

Yeah the "crime against political correctness" was turning up to defend some old scrote who had reposted on Facebook the pride symbol/swastika meme that lozza posted on twitter.

Extraordinarily, even though Miller turned up armed with "PAPERWORK" to show the filth that they were "IN BREACH" of their own guidelines, the law etc etc etc, the filth were just as unimpressed as when shitheads from a lower strata of society show up armed with "PAPERWORK" to perform "common law arrests" on drag artists. What is this country coming to eh.

 

[edcraw]

Yeah the "crime against political correctness" was turning up to defend some old scrote who had reposted on Facebook the pride symbol/swastika meme that lozza posted on twitter.

Extraordinarily, even though Miller turned up armed with "PAPERWORK" to show the filth that they were "IN BREACH" of their own guidelines, the law etc etc etc, the filth were just as unimpressed as when shitheads from a lower strata of society show up armed with "PAPERWORK" to perform "common law arrests" on drag artists. What is this country coming to eh.

The worse part of this is how they all now think that posting shit memes on Facebook is somehow some hugely subversive act.

 

[two sheds]

Good point though, why didn't they arrest Fox, too if he posted it first?

 

[Athos]

Fox is a cock, and that pride flag swastika is shitty, but do we really want police arresting people for causing offence online? Seems like a power that'd soon be (ab)used against many on the left.

 

[edcraw]

Fox is a cock, and that pride flag swastika is shitty, but do we really want police arresting people for causing offence online? Seems like a power that'd soon be (ab)used against many on the left.

Not clear what the offence was but it seems he was given ample other options before being arrested & isn’t it hate speech rather than just causing offence?

Think I’m happy with “first they came for the racists and the bigots and I did nothing” tbh.

 

[Athos]

Not clear what the offence was but it seems he was given ample other options before being arrested & isn’t it hate speech rather than just causing offence?

Think I’m happy with “first they came for the racists and the bigots and I did nothing” tbh.

Hmmm. I don't know the ins and outs of what he was arrested for, but I suspect it was for obstruction in respect of trying to stop police speaking to the poster of the meme. If he's the guy I'm thinking of, his hobby horse is preventing the police trying to stiffle speech that doesn't amount to a crime. He has a test case on that which led to a successful claim against the police and resulted in police policy and guidelines having to be rewritten. I don't disagree with that in principle, but it's a shame he's a cock and the lawful expressions he's defending are right wing. But it's a bit naive to think the police will only use powers against bigots!

 

[emanymton]

Fox is a cock, and that pride flag swastika is shitty, but do we really want police arresting people for causing offence online? Seems like a power that'd soon be (ab)used against many on the left.

In principle I agree, yet just can't summon up a fuck to give about these dicks.

 

[edcraw]

Hmmm. I don't know the ins and outs of what he was arrested for, but I suspect it was for obstruction in respect of trying to stop police speaking to the poster of the meme. If he's the guy I'm thinking of, his hobby horse is preventing the police trying to stiffle speech that doesn't amount to a crime. He has a test case on that which led to a successful claim against the police and resulted in police policy and guidelines having to be rewritten. I don't disagree with that in principle, but it's a shame he's a cock and the lawful expressions he's defending are right wing. But it's a bit naive to think the police will only use powers against bigots!

Attacking trans people by calling them nazis is out right hate speech & I’m very happy for that hate speech to be stifled.

 

[Athos]

Attacking trans people by calling them nazis is out right hate speech & I’m very happy for that hate speech to be stifled.

As unpleasant as that picture was, I'm not sure it does (or should) amount to a crime. And his point is that the police have no business interfering with lawful speech.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Good point though, why didn't they arrest Fox, too if he posted it first?

Probably because that would involve meeting him.

 

[Athos]

Good point though, why didn't they arrest Fox, too if he posted it first?

I think the bloke they nicked for posting it has a history of posting similar stuff, despite warnings. I think he was always going to push it until they arrested him. Possibly to be a test case to clarify the intereraction of s.127 Communications Act 2003 and the right to freedom of expression under Article 10 ECHR, and/or make himself a right wing martyr.

 

[Athos]

I suspect the reason they didn't go after Fox is that he'd fight it and would probably win, which would embolden other dickheads to post that image and others, in droves.

 

[edcraw]

Fox took his post down didn’t he? It sounds like this guy went a lot further.

Of course we should question the police but also be extremely wary of defending fascists posting hate in the name of free speech as they’re looking to suppress everyone else’s freedom at any given opportunity.

 

[Athos]

Fox took his post down didn’t he? It sounds like this guy went a lot further.

Of course we should question the police but also be extremely wary of defending fascists posting hate in the name of free speech as they’re looking to suppress everyone else’s freedom at any given opportunity.

Yep. I wouldn't defend fascists, or any liberal notion of free speech. More, I think there's better ways of fighting fascists than by arming the state. Plus it also runs the risk of making martys.

 

[SpineyNorman]

In principle I agree, yet just can't summon up a fuck to give about these dicks.

I'd bet my left bollock there's more to it than these twats are making out anyway

 

[Ax^]

Odd they not given the other fella name out

Does appear from what's been released he was ask to talk something down but instead choose to get other people involved to turn it into a last stand for Freedom

Guys the guy has form and it would look less like harassing a poor veteran

 

[Dystopiary]

I'd bet my left bollock there's more to it than these twats are making out anyway

Wouldn't be surprised if they called the cops themselves.

 

[Pynchon]

I was going to say that I'm shocked by some of the lazy responses to this event on this thread, but of course I'm not. Anarchists would once have focused on the over-reach of the State's paramilitary arm on this occasion, but no longer apparently. It seems that there are situations when anarchists and leftists put aside outrage at the cops actually breaking the law and intimidating working-class people, so long as those cops are upholding an ideology that 99% of the working class of this country have no truck with. Every one of you here who are prevaricating or making excuses for the cops, or denigrating a man who was simply exercising his freedom of expression, should be f*cking ashamed of yourselves. It doesn't matter whether you agree with his sharing of a meme or not, can't you see what you are enabling by giving the State permission to police what you say on social media? "First they came for the progress pride flag satirists, but I said nothing, and then when they came for me ...."

 

[Smangus]

I was going to say that I'm shocked by some of the lazy responses to this event on this thread, but of course I'm not. Anarchists would once have focused on the over-reach of the State's paramilitary arm on this occasion, but no longer apparently. It seems that there are situations when anarchists and leftists put aside outrage at the cops actually breaking the law and intimidating working-class people, so long as those cops are upholding an ideology that 99% of the working class of this country have no truck with. Every one of you here who are prevaricating or making excuses for the cops, or denigrating a man who was simply exercising his freedom of expression, should be f*cking ashamed of yourselves. It doesn't matter whether you agree with his sharing of a meme or not, can't you see what you are enabling by giving the State permission to police what you say on social media? "First they came for the progress pride flag satirists, but I said nothing, and then when they came for me ...."

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha....ha.

 

[Serge Forward]

The point you made has already been made by a couple of posters. Otherwise, nice try Laurence.

 

[stdP]

I was going to say that I'm shocked by some of the lazy responses to this event on this thread, but of course I'm not. Anarchists would once have focused on the over-reach of the State's paramilitary arm on this occasion, but no longer apparently. It seems that there are situations when anarchists and leftists put aside outrage at the cops actually breaking the law and intimidating working-class people, so long as those cops are upholding an ideology that 99% of the working class of this country have no truck with. Every one of you here who are prevaricating or making excuses for the cops, or denigrating a man who was simply exercising his freedom of expression, should be f*cking ashamed of yourselves. It doesn't matter whether you agree with his sharing of a meme or not, can't you see what you are enabling by giving the State permission to police what you say on social media? "First they came for the progress pride flag satirists, but I said nothing, and then when they came for me ...."

This is a great all-purpose post, it could be added to so many threads and still make just as much sense whilst maintaining the same degree of ethical finesse.

 

[Dystopiary]

"First they came for the progress pride flag satirists, but I said nothing, and then when they came for me ...."

Did they? Awwwwwwwwww. Maybe you should've made more fuss defending far-right dickheads eh?

 

[Raheem]

"First they came for the progress pride flag satirists, but I said nothing, and then when they came for me ...."

"...I wished I'd been a cunt when I had the chance"?

 

[Pynchon]

Well, I said I wouldn't be surprised! What a bunch of middle-class, liberal, reactionary tosh. You'll supporting the cops because it aligns with yr warped ideology. I thought free-thinkers were anti-establishment. Once-upon-a-time anarchists and lib-socialists valued freedom of speech. We railed against Mary Whitehouse and the Moral Majority. Jello Biafra was a hero; Genesis P-Orridge's transgressions were a light in the darkness; yadda, yadda. It doesn't matter if you think Lawrence Fox is a twat - I think Lawrence Fox is an enormous bell-end - but you have see the bigger picture and recognise that the State/the cops, once they determine what thought is allowed and what isn't allowed, will be bearing down on all your smug middle-class arses next. They'll allow you to chuck over a few statues and chant 'trans women are women', or whatever new fad you maniacs are temporarily into, but the pride rainbow cop cars will come for you in the end, if you try to actually change anything, which I guess most of you won't really want to or need to ....

 

[edcraw]

Well, I said I wouldn't be surprised! What a bunch of middle-class, liberal, reactionary tosh. You'll supporting the cops because it aligns with yr warped ideology. I thought free-thinkers were anti-establishment. Once-upon-a-time anarchists and lib-socialists valued freedom of speech. We railed against Mary Whitehouse and the Moral Majority. Jello Biafra was a hero; Genesis P-Orridge's transgressions were a light in the darkness; yadda, yadda. It doesn't matter if you think Lawrence Fox is a twat - I think Lawrence Fox is an enormous bell-end - but you have see the bigger picture and recognise that the State/the cops, once they determine what thought is allowed and what isn't allowed, will be bearing down on all your smug middle-class arses next. They'll allow you to chuck over a few statues and chant 'trans women are women', or whatever new fad you maniacs are temporarily into, but the pride rainbow cop cars will come for you in the end, if you try to actually change anything, which I guess most of you won't really want to or need to ....

Laurence Fox is a fascist. You’re supporting a fascist.

 

[Yossarian]

"First they came for Laurence Fox, and I didn't say anything, because I was laughing too hard."

 

[edcraw]

They'll allow you to… chant 'trans women are women', or whatever new fad you maniacs are temporarily into

Missed this bit. Well you can fuck off.