Just found out a guy who works for me is being a git

[Firky]

I never said that I didn't intend it as an attack, I said I don't care if she perceives it as an attack. There's a difference.

Edit to add:

It's a culmination, a trend of posts made by her and eventually I got pissed off and felt I needed to say something. The posts I made were really quite polite given this is U75.

 

[ymu]

So that needs context, despite being a substantial snippet of a post from two pages ago, but Firky mentions individual words from numerous different (unnamed and unlinked) threads, and you think that's fine.

Yes. It's a conditional clause. The context matters. It's a long post, and says a lot more than you are implying here.

As it happens, I've just looked up the two other incidents that firky mentioned because I was unaware of significant cross-thread beef until now. Wow. I hate cross-thread beef but I can see exactly how she got up his nose. Has mine now too.

 

[scifisam]

I don't really care if I upset her feelings if you want to know the truth. I did it in public because she posted her questionable phrase in public. There's plenty of examples of where other posters have been pulled up on their posts, I don't make an exception for someone - well that's not actually true...(as I said I was gentle - considering my reputation for going for the throat) the other examples I included I let slip by the way. But like water on a stone, enough was enough and I pulled her up on it. If I posted something like that I'd fully expect to be pulled up on it publically such is the nature of forums.

If that makes me a cunt so be it.

If all you'd posted about was her use of that one phrase in this thread, then that'd be true. But you didn't. You brought up loads of stuff from other threads, made big judgments about her personality and said she needs to think about whether she belongs here. I don't really know why you're trying to weasel out of this - you don't care if her feelings were hurt, you think she doesn't belong here, so why pretend that personal attack wasn't a personal attack?

 

[scifisam]

Yes. It's a conditional clause. The context matters. It's a long post, and says a lot more than you are implying here.

As it happens, I've just looked up the two other incidents that firky mentioned because I was unaware of significant cross-thread beef until now. Wow. I hate cross-thread beef but I can see exactly how she got up his nose. Has mine now too.

It's a conditional clause that says "if you say that, then I say this." She did say that, so Firky did say this. Ergo, he did say she was a racist. Perhaps that's not the way he meant to phrase it, but that is what he bloody said. I really think you need to re-read the post. If anyone had directed a comment like that at you, you'd be fucking fuming.

 

[lizzieloo]

As far as I can see, it is only Manter making it into something it isn't. I didn't see anyone accuse her of racism, I did see people say it wasn't racist but it was iffy. She's the one who declared it an accusation of racism and promptly flounced.

Is there some shit going down on other threads that I don't know about?

Y'know what? Some folk don't have thick skins, I for example internalise the slightest thing. She's had some iffy stuff pointed out to her and to save her having a huge wobble about it she's gone cos it's not worth making herself mega upset by.

 

[lighterthief]

Mmmm, lunch mob.

 

[Firky]

If all you'd posted about was her use of that one phrase in this thread, then that'd be true. But you didn't. You brought up loads of stuff from other threads, made big judgments about her personality and said she needs to think about whether she belongs here. I don't really know why you're trying to weasel out of this - you don't care if her feelings were hurt, you think she doesn't belong here, so why pretend that personal attack wasn't a personal attack?

I am not trying to weasel out of it, sam? I fully admit I brought her other posts into context because 'the Indian' thing is one of several examples cited that I took offence to. No, I don't care if her feelings her hurt. Has no one thought about the posters on here who are Asian and how they feel, or how junior staff in an office feel when they're called 'overheads'? Fuck that. I do care about them as sanctimonious as it is I do give a shit about this kind of thing. I will call people out on it regardless if they get upset by it or not.

What about that lass who DJ's? Should posters have not publically voiced their disapproval in the feedback forum about a series of posts over several threads that made her feel like she could not post here any more? I am not going to name her because that is not cricket but I guess you know who I am referring to.

I am the hungry mob.

 

[Firky]

It's a conditional clause that says "if you say that, then I say this." She did say that, so Firky did say this. Ergo, he did say she was a racist. Perhaps that's not the way he meant to phrase it, but that is what he bloody said. I really think you need to re-read the post. If anyone had directed a comment like that at you, you'd be fucking fuming.

I believe ymu has more sense than to use phrases that would her in such a position.

Manter thinks I called her a racist? Oh boo hoo!

 

[Frumious B.]

Firky, could you please address this point I made earlier?

"hasn't anyone noticed that Manter refers to her other half as 'the Northerner'? She has a sardonic way of expressing herself"

Seems to me you're trying to make something out of nothing.

 

[pengaleng]

No one likes a sick fuck racist like matner

 

[Firky]

Firky, could you please address this point I made earlier?

"hasn't anyone noticed that Manter refers to her other half as 'the Northerner'? She has a sardonic way of expressing herself"

Sure,

One makes people feel uncomfortable (as a couple of Asian posters and white posters on here have pointed out) and the other is a pet name for her OH. I am northern and I certainly don't find it insulting!

 

[ymu]

Y'know what? Some folk don't have thick skins, I for example internalise the slightest thing. She's had some iffy stuff pointed out to her and to save her having a huge wobble about it she's gone cos it's not worth making herself mega upset by.

I'm sure that is precisely what happened. That doesn't make it OK for anyone else to defend her by making out that it's somehow unlikely that anyone might have genuinely been offended by her rank snobbery.

(Not saying you are doing that, I've lost track. )

 

[purenarcotic]

I can't say I felt particularly comfortable with 'the Indian', in the same way I wouldn't feel comfortable somebody calling me 'the Jew'. Because I'm not 'the Jew'.

I don't think there was any intention to cause offence, but I don't see why it should go unchallenged and somebody shouldn't stop and think about how they phrase things a little.

 

[snadge]

I liked Firky far better when his trolling was in your face, now he still trolls but under the banner of being PC gawn mad and he gets away with it everytime and some people are too dense to see it for what it is.

 

[pengaleng]

Referring to someone in a derogatory way and knowingly doing so as you would if you'd typed out 'the Indian' or 'the overheads' etc is just the mark of a cunt. If you are going to be a cunt at least do it fucking properly. Cunt.

Say what you fucking mean.

 

[Firky]

Referring to someone in a derogatory way and knowingly doing so as you would if you'd typed out 'the Indian' or 'the overheads' etc is just the mark of a cunt. If you are going to be a cunt at least do it fucking properly. Cunt.

Say what you fucking mean.

Oh here comes the comes "the cripple"

 

[pengaleng]

Why don't you fuck off and die? You parasitic cancerous cunt, get a job.

 

[Firky]

Get a job? That's the most insulting thing anyone could say.

 

[pengaleng]

I know.

 

[Frumious B.]

Mods, please kill this thread. The trolls are killing what's left of my faith in humanity.

 

[pengaleng]

You are a bit of a prick init frumoius or whatever the fuck you are supposed to be

 

[Pickman's model]

Mods, please kill this thread. The trolls are killing what's left of my faith in humanity.

You are phildwyer and I claim my £5

 

[Pickman's model]

Get a job? That's the most insulting thing anyone could say.

You'll work hard with a gun in your back for a bowl of rice a day

 

[wiskey]

Mods, please kill this thread. The trolls are killing what's left of my faith in humanity.

why?

 

[Puddy_Tat]

do lunch mobs turn up with an ordinary knife and fork, instead of a pitchfork?

 

[cesare]

Oh God. Now I'm getting a mental vision of Manter in a tumbril, with her blonde tresses unbound and a bewildered expression on her face weeping "but but but let them eat cake" whilst the lunch mob hurl greggs pasties and brandish those plastic forks you half inch out of pret and the tumbril gets wheeled inexorably towards the shadow of the guillotine bearing the banner of UK P&P ...

 

[Firky]

A tumbril built by overheads from Turnbridge Wells from plans penned in green ink.The hu-manter-ity of it... the sausage rolls, the baps, the pasties, the steak in the heart.

Stop being a soft shite, Manter and get your arse back on U75 and give me a royal kicking. I say plenty of shit that you can pull me up on.

 

[Sapphireblue]

I'm sure that is precisely what happened. That doesn't make it OK for anyone else to defend her by making out that it's somehow unlikely that anyone might have genuinely been offended by her rank snobbery.

(Not saying you are doing that, I've lost track. )

I don't think anyone who's defending her is saying that she might not have caused offence, for a start in the relevant thread about overheads she apologised herself.

The defence is about the way the attack was made. Pull someone up on their comments by all means but there was no need for firky to be such a cunt and imply that no-one wanted someone like Manter on the boards.

 

[stuff_it]

WTF happened to the thread? I only stepped out to write a few emails!

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

WTF happened to the thread? I only stepped out to write a few emails!

It was all your fault