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Just found out a guy who works for me is being a git

I read them, carried on - didn't want to get involved and then today when I saw 'The Indian' thing I thought, "you know what? Am going to say something because no one else has."

Thoroughly expected to get stick for it but I really don't see what is wrong in pulling someone up on something like that? Should we just accept Manter can use inappropriate phrases and show contempt for her junior staff or should we pull her up on it so (as she says herself) may learn from it / see a different perspective? It's not just confined to Manter though, it can be extended to other areas outside of the boards.
I think that's fair enough. :cool:
Can we get the priest in for TP now though before her head starts spinning. I've had 1 kid throw up on me today I couldn't cope with another:D
 
I always thought urban was a little bit more of a community spirited place. Let's say a bit more wholesome a gaff that placed a 'not welcome' door mat to some of rather odd individual sick fucks that you find posting their bile on you tube.
Has it changed?
I've never seen someone repeatedly come out with such snobbish bile on these boards and get given such an easy time of it. Maybe the kid gloves stayed on too long?
 
firky, you didn't just pull her up on it (and I agree, the language used was inappropriate) but you also said it was posters like her watering down this place, and that she should think about what urban is (what the fuck is it? I couldn't define it) and how she fits into it.

That isn't just pulling someone up on their phrases is it. People don't have to fit in to a perceived "stereotype" surely? I thought you were once the person who argued against the cliquey nature of this place and now you're doing exactly that.
 
Nahhh, firky in his older, enfant terrible incarnation, used to rant against me and trashy for being all that was wrong with urban. we were 'wallpaper', iirc... also, i think, 'goldfish'.

he is entirely consistent in the kinds of things that piss him off - just a good deal more polite and articulate than he used to be, in expressing them.
 
Oh spit out what the fuck you are getting at or just fuck off, no one cares, have you got no idle gossip to call someone about or something?
Someone made a serious accusation about Manter to the mods but didn't come back with the evidence. I've just now spoken to a different poster, (who was supposed to be the injured party, but was not the accuser) and the accusation is clearly not one of substance. Manter's choice of phrase on this thread was off, but taken with everything else, I think she's been treated badly, although I don't think it's a planned ganging-up and deliberate driving off the boards. I originally wondered whether it was and to do with the accusations made previously.
 
I've never had a problem with trashy far from it, I think you're mistaken me for Ninjaboy.

I dunno what accusations you're on about Mrs Magpie but do PM me if they involve me I'd be more than happy to discuss it. Also I explicitly said in my post I am not driving manter off the boards. Who is this gang you speak of, is it people who are agreeing with me?
 
This thread has gone from pointing out that it's not acceptable to use the phrase 'the Indian' into a classic bunfight.

Doing a WoW and more later... bacon on the go :D ;) :oops:
 
I've never had a problem with trashy far from it, I think you're mistaken me for Ninjaboy.
Also spangles I did used to troll you, yup, we both know that.
oh - really? i was sure the wallpaper thing was you... gah, i'm getting old and my memory is for shit. apols.

and you and i really is water under the bridge... i was just pointing out that while you've matured a little, the same sorts of things have always pissed you off.
 
This thread has gone from pointing out that it's not acceptable to use the phrase 'the Indian' into a classic bunfight.

Actually, the initial thread was about a personnel / discipline workplace matter over an apparently sexist employee. Before it was derailed. I just hope Pingu can follow it !!
 
oh - really? i was sure the wallpaper thing was you... gah, i'm getting old and my memory is for shit. apols.

and you and i really is water under the bridge... i was just pointing out that while you've matured a little, the same sorts of things have always pissed you off.

I don't know, to be honest I think out all the things I said the wallpaper thing is probably the least offensive *cringe*, defo' didn't have beefs with trashy though... that I recall?! Fuck knows. 12 years is a long time.

Yeah, certain things do piss me off. You're right, I am just better at saying what not than I used to. People tend to take you much more seriously and acknowledge you have a point and or correct than when you do by calling them "STUCK UP MIDDLE CLASS WAITROSE CUNTS" :D

E2A: Deffo never had a problem with trashy. I remember exactly what was said by ninja and it was
 
firky, you didn't just pull her up on it (and I agree, the language used was inappropriate) but you also said it was posters like her watering down this place, and that she should think about what urban is (what the fuck is it? I couldn't define it) and how she fits into it.

That isn't just pulling someone up on their phrases is it. People don't have to fit in to a perceived "stereotype" surely? I thought you were once the person who argued against the cliquey nature of this place and now you're doing exactly that.

I could definitely see from an early stage of her posting that the mere fact that she has a quite high flying job that may be of the hire and fire sort would eventually see her become unstuck on here if she kept reminding everyone of the fact.

Of course, that aside, she is an amiable person. Probably why it took it so long for this to happen. But there was an inevitability about it, imo.
 
I've never had a problem with trashy far from it, I think you're mistaken me for Ninjaboy.

I dunno what accusations you're on about Mrs Magpie but do PM me if they involve me I'd be more than happy to discuss it. Also I explicitly said in my post I am not driving manter off the boards. Who is this gang you speak of, is it people who are agreeing with me?
Fucking hell - just read this disaster of a thread.

It's true - you've never been a git to me. You have however been a git to Manter - your 'you said this, and then you said that' is a bit stalkery and foul. I don't disagree with what you pulled her up on but I don't think you needed to do it in the way you did. She's not a bad person, she is just coming from a very different place from most urbanites.

And I can't be the only person here that sees the irony that once again, a discussion about misogyny and sexism becomes one about racism. And attacking a female poster. Hurrah!
 
I've never seen someone repeatedly come out with such snobbish bile on these boards and get given such an easy time of it. Maybe the kid gloves stayed on too long?
Maybe so I dunno dude I've not really seen much of that from Manter myself. But then I don't read every thread. I always post on urban thread by thread and if I'm honest I can never remember who the fuck anyone is from one thread to the next these days apart from those folk who have been here for donks like. I can cross thread with JC (He's that Canadian chap isn't he?), Stanley (The whacky drunk artist?), VP (Piss taking cunt who has a thing for my mother), Greebo (My personal stalker, bit of a witch), Quimmy (Gorgeous mad jock) Firks (Funny jerdy cunt) orang utan (Grumpy ginger dry witted fucker) and fed (Bluenose twat that has a heart of gold) and so on. Some others I've met at gatherings but can't remember who they are when I see them post online. I just accept everyone based upon the fact that they're a member of the board.

Like any good community, or boozer for that matter, we run the danger of becoming a rather stagnant boring clique if everyone who has a different background or view on things is chased off the premises (Not that I in any way think that was anyone's intentions on this thread, well until all the cunty calling started).

I'm the resident pacifist in my local British Legion. They call me Mandela behind my back because I've chirped up about some of the shit I've heard around the snooker table about 'Darkies' but they'd never ask me to leave. With their membership issues consisting of more people dieing than joining they're not unlike urban. They appreciate us filling the snooker light meter and assisting in turning the barrels around before the beer goes stale. Apparently me and my snooker partner have brightened up the place. We don't share the same views as a lot of the old boys who frequent the bar but they like the fact that we are there for them to take the piss out of and they get to teach us a few lessons on the snooker table every now and then. It's £6 an hour cheaper than the snooker hall and £1.90 a pint for stout. I can put up with them seem as they seem ok putting up with me :D

Flouncings a bit shit as well mind ;)
 
I think it is fine to pick people up about a miss chosen word or phrase and I have been picked up on that a number of times myself.

But I think Firky you went too far. It is obvious that you don't like Manter but all that crap about what urban is and if you fit into it or not ... excess to requirements.

So, another new poster persuaded away. Not very good at welcoming new people urban, is it!
 
I could definitely see from an early stage of her posting that the mere fact that she has a quite high flying job that may be of the hire and fire sort would eventually see her become unstuck on here if she kept reminding everyone of the fact.

Of course, that aside, she is an amiable person. Probably why it took it so long for this to happen. But there an inevitability about it, imo.

Nail, head.
 
And I can't be the only person here that sees the irony that once again, a discussion about misogyny and sexism becomes one about racism. And attacking a female poster. Hurrah!

And holding out that poster as being totemic of 'everything that has gone wrong with Urban' (whilst holding yourself out, presumably, as everything that is good about it).

Manter is Firky's scapegoat, and she's 'scaped.
 
no, they don't but I wondered whether the grief she's got over the last couple of months was connected, and now I don't think so.

Nah, Manter has never really featured in my radar before until I read those posts I mentioned - and they're all within 8 weeks of each other. Which is probably why they stuck.

If I have this right: the majority of people on here on this thread agree with me, save for a few who admit they'd use the term themselves, but they do not agree how I pulled her up on it. Fair point but if I did not pull her up on the things listed in one post and instead chose to pull her up on them as they occurred would that not be worse? I'd look like a dog with a bone then, where as this way I can say:

1) Calling junior staff 'overheads' is grossly offensive to workers.

2) The use of phrase "the Indian is grossly offensive.

3) Calling people brain dead house wives because they don't talk about the same subjects as you is grossly offensive.i


Also if you look back to page 6 I think I said, "I am not chasing you off the boards or hounding you but I think you need to think about your place on them", which is really a clumsy way of saying, "if you want an easy life on these boards, I'd check what you say at times."

Maybe I should have read my post before I hit the submit button - still stand by everything I said. If maybe not the way I said it.
 
And I can't be the only person here that sees the irony that once again, a discussion about misogyny and sexism becomes one about racism. And attacking a female poster. Hurrah!

Actually, good point. Although I would add that had Manter been male I imaging they'd have been pulled up a lot sooner and had less defenders.
 
Also if you look back to page 6 I think I said, "I am not chasing you off the boards or hounding you but I think you need to think about your place on them", which is really a clumsy way of saying, "if you want an easy life on these boards, I'd check what you say at times."

Maybe I should have read my post before I hit the submit button.
I love a good but in a sentence "I'm not saying you're a wanker firky, BUT, you're a wanker" :p yes you should have read it before submitting. We don't want clones of the people already here, and why should people just slide into wanting an easy life? Why not learn stuff, talk stuff through with people who don't see the world through the same eyes. Like friedaweed said, it'd be a pretty shit place, a stagnant place, if we did.
 
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