Julie Burchill forced to apologise for twitter comments , and pay out a fat wedge .

[killer b]

No

sounds like something a lazy intellectual snob would say

 

[Knotted]

I think there's a case to be made that Somewhere Over the Rainbow is the greatest melody ever written.

[I'm just monologing now.]

 

[killer b]

I think there's a case to be made that Somewhere Over the Rainbow is the greatest melody ever written.

[I'm just monologing now.]

it's actually Sumer Is Icumen In, which has managed to last the best part of a thousand years so far.

 

[Clair De Lune]

sounds like something a lazy intellectual snob would say

If that's what it makes me then I shall wear it like a garland in my hair cos I can't force myself to like anything

 

[Knotted]

it's actually Sumer Is Icumen In, which has managed to last the best part of a thousand years so far.

Hmm. It's a round rather than a standalone melody.

 

[8ball]

My sister's husband's parents watched Wizard of Oz for the first time and hated it. I don't know how that's possible, but they did.

I assume they were older than 5 when this happened.

 

[Knotted]

If that's what it makes me then I shall wear it like a garland in my hair cos I can't force myself to like anything

Judy Garland did indeed sing the greatest melody.

 

[Raheem]

Are you telling me I'm wrong Raheem ? Because if so, that's fine.

No, you might be right. Just I don't think there's much point in telling people if you know you're not going to like their responses.

 

[8ball]

as idumea might have said, the following musicals are banned: all

I'd give Blues Brothers and The Jungle Book a pass, but still, it's a bigger gain than a loss in the scheme of things.
Did we cover whether Opera counts as musicals?

 

[Clair De Lune]

No, you might be right. Just I don't think there's much point in telling people if you know you're not going to like their responses.

This is a fascinating point of view. Where are you applying this stance? To your whole life, just online or what? I imagine it must make sharing your actual views on anything very difficult.

 

[Sue]

Musicals are genuinely appalling.

I'd honestly rather re-sit my O-Level Chemistry than have to sit through even a nanosecond of painful, performatively cheerful wank.

They're not all cheerful! A Star is Born (1954 version) is heartrending (and a great film).

ETA And West Side Story isn't exactly ultimately cheerful either, for example.

 

[Knotted]

Is it possible to hate all musicals but like some operas? Is it the mode switching thing that offends?

 

[kittyP]

Dancer in the Dark is good. And Jungle Book.

Dancer in the Dark is amazing but so bleak and upsetting I don't think I could watch t again.

 

[8ball]

Is it possible to hate all musicals but like some operas? Is it the mode switching thing that offends?

The mode switching is a problem tbf. Partly the clanking gear changes and partly the way that while they're singing you wish they were still talking and when they're talking you wish they were still singing, which leads to a kind of oscillating nausea and sense of displacement.

 

[Knotted]

The mode switching is a problem tbf. Partly the clanking gear changes and partly the way that while they're singing you wish they were still talking and when they're talking you wish they were still singing, which leads to a kind of oscillating nausea and sense of displacement.

Yeah I'm with you on that. That bit where the dialogue is just there to set up the song (Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh My!)...

But there's a kind of ridiculousness to that and art of all forms is basically just ridiculous.

 

[kittyP]

I think there's a case to be made that Somewhere Over the Rainbow is the greatest melody ever written.

[I'm just monologing now.]

The original Judy Garland film version of that song is the most perfect piece of music/vocals ever!

 

[8ball]

Yeah I'm with you on that. That bit where the dialogue is just there to set up the song (Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh My!)...

But there's a kind of ridiculousness to that and art of all forms is basically just ridiculous.

Except juggling.

 

[petee]

If we’re being controversial, my favourite Welles film (as director) is the Magnificent Ambersons.

i own that dvd.
but it's hard to choose: Touch of evil, Mr arkadin, Mag ambs. i didn't like F for Fake though.

 

[Knotted]

The original Judy Garland film version of that song is the most perfect piece of music/vocals ever!

I think if you extracted just the vocals, it would still be a knock out. Compared to another contender like Summertime - that needs the harmonisation to make it great.

 

[Pickman's model]

The original Judy Garland film version of that song is the most perfect piece of music/vocals ever!

Features in the abominable dr phibes iirc

 

[kittyP]

I think if you extracted just the vocals, it would still be a knock out. Compared to another contender like Summertime - that needs the harmonisation to make it great.

I find myself "la la laaing" the verse melody, that sounds like a bird flying, to myself at least once a day I think.

 

[kittyP]

Features in the abominable dr phibes iirc

I have no idea

 

[Pickman's model]

I have no idea

my mistake, it's in dr phibes rises again

 

[Santino]

Musicals are genuinely appalling.

I'd honestly rather re-sit my O-Level Chemistry than have to sit through even a nanosecond of painful, performatively cheerful wank.

This is the Simpsons view of musicals again. You're just proudly displaying your ignorance and expecting to be congratulated for it.

 

[steeplejack]

Not really, I'm sharing my dislike of musical productions based on personal experience / opinion.

 

[Santino]

Hamilton is basically Jesus Christ Superstar for millennials.

 

[chilango]

Features in the abominable dr phibes iirc

Saw them play at the Buckley Tivoli a few times. Underrated.

 

[stethoscope]

All about Sondheim - West Side, Sweeney, Pacific Overtures, Company, Into The Woods

 

[elbows]

I was searching for something else in regards musicals on youtube, but instead I ended up with this!

 

[Pickman's model]