Italy v Uruguay (Group D) Tuesday 24th June 2014

[Fedayn]

And you also said they're all cunts. And you said that lots of them were defending Gerrard. If you choose to hang around with people like that, that's your problem.

When were they defending Gerrard? Who was defending Gerrard?

I don't 'hang around' with any of them. Again ffs, the tweets were re-tweeted by a good bloke who happens to be a kopite. How does that imply I was hanging about with any of them?

 

[Fez909]

Galacticoño

You're being harsh now. It's not like he's commited a morder.

 

[friedaweed]

And you also said they're all cunts. And you said that lots of them were defending Gerrard. If you choose to hang around with people like that, that's your problem.

To be fair Fed has to hang around with people like that and say Liverpool fans are all cunts. He's a Bitter bluenose twat and a pretty all round good egg and knowledgeable lad on his football.

I don't doubt Feds claims that some reds are acting like cunts for a second, I'm sure loads of people are acting like cunts about it. Mind you in saying that. It is only a game

 

[Mumbles274]

I don't get why it isn't a criminal matter? Talk about bans is one thing.. But last I checked biting someone was illegal?

 

[Mumbles274]

Mutual sex biting notwithstanding

 

[Favelado]

You're being harsh now. It's not like he's commited a morder.

That's very, very good.

 

[Fedayn]

I don't get why it isn't a criminal matter? Talk about bans is one thing.. But last I checked biting someone was illegal?

A shoulder barge in the street could be seen as assault and battery, on a football pitch it's not. I'm loathe to bring the criminal law into football any more than it is. Lots of things acceptable on a pitch are potentially illegal on the streets and vice versa.

 

[ska invita]

I don't get why it isn't a criminal matter? Talk about bans is one thing.. But last I checked biting someone was illegal?

think its worth saying that a dangerous two footed tackle if it connects a certain way has the potential to finish someones career. worst case scenario for a bite from suarez is tetanus. hopefully not rabies.

 

[friedaweed]

I don't get why it isn't a criminal matter? Talk about bans is one thing.. But last I checked biting someone was illegal?

So is kicking someone in the face, headbutting, stamping on someone, punching them. If we started applying criminal law to team sports rugby would have to stop over night

 

[Mumbles274]

Yeah, bit some of those are extremes of legal actions on the pitch. Bad tackle is one thing.. There is no legal bite it football

 

[Fez909]

A shoulder barge in the street could be seen as assault and battery, on a football pitch it's not. I'm loathe to bring the criminal law into football any more than it is. Lots of things acceptable on a pitch are potentially illegal on the streets and vice versa.

Duncan Ferguson got done for GBH for on the pitch stuff.

 

[Badgers]

think its worth saying that a dangerous two footed tackle if it connects a certain way has the potential to finish someones career. worst case scenario for a bite from suarez is tetanus. hopefully not rabies.

Like the Roy Keane one?

 

[Mumbles274]

And why isn't headbutting someone on football pitch a criminal offence.. Soon think they'd not be so keen to do it in front of cameras if it ended in court

 

[Favelado]

Like the Roy Keane one?

It pains me to say it but I read up on this, and Keane didn't end anyone's career. It wasn't even that knee that did it for Haaland in the end.

 

[Fedayn]

Duncan Ferguson got done for GBH for on the pitch stuff.

He did and it was farcical. Even more idiotic when since then people have had careers ended and nothing happens to the offending player. Once we bring the law into stupid behaviour/bad tackles/bad reactions then we're gonna be fucked.

 

[friedaweed]

Yeah well whilst we're all arguing about who thinks Suarez is a cuntiest the BBC are using it to bury bad news stories like this one.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28008541
Prince Harry faces penalties in Brazil

 

[Favelado]

And why isn't headbutting someone on football pitch a criminal offence.. Soon think they'd not be so keen to do it in front of cameras if it ended in court

Football is getting big in the US so we can expect lawsuits to become the order of the day. Backdated to the 1950s.

 

[weltweit]

On ITV they were saying FIFA has rules permitting punishments after a game based on video evidence. And they showed the incident from multiple angles, I don't have any doubt he did bite. I think he has to get some kind of a ban. But what an idiot for doing it, it doesn't make any sense!

 

[Fez909]

He did and it was farcical. Even more idiotic when since then people have had careers ended and nothing happens to the offending player. Once we bring the law into stupid behaviour/bad tackles/bad reactions then we're gonna be fucked.

I agree on that one, actually. I was just pointing out there is history of charges being brought.

A Leeds player was jailed a few years ago for breaking someone's jaw, too.

 

[Mumbles274]

A shoulder barge is a legitimate thing in football, much as punching someone in the face in boxing is legal. Quick Google says Tyson was fined 3mil for biting holyfield although not criminally I don't think

 

[Favelado]

On ITV they were saying FIFA has rules permitting punishments after a game based on video evidence. And they showed the incident from multiple angles, I don't have any doubt he did bite. I think he has to get some kind of a ban. But what an idiot for doing it, it doesn't make any sense!

This is why people are saying it seems like some kind of compulsion or something. In high pressure situations you can see that he stops thinking straight. He's goes into trouble mode and gets a look in his eyes. It doesn't always stop him playing well but the cheating starts and you feel he could do a full Joey Barton any minute.

 

[Fedayn]

I agree on that one, actually. I was just pointing out there is history of charges being brought.

A Leeds player was jailed a few years ago for breaking someone's jaw, too.

My 'worry' would be, and i'm 'defending' Suarez here. If, for example, Suarez got a charge then how does Pepe not getting a charge look? It's a recipe for disaster. Once you get legal sanctions will teams/owners demand compo if a player is injured? Will they demand a retrospective trophy etc etc? It would open up a ludicrous can of worms.

 

[friedaweed]

A shoulder barge is a legitimate thing in football, much as punching someone in the face in boxing is legal. Quick Google says Tyson was fined 3mil for biting holyfield although not criminally I don't think

Yeah but he took the dudes ear off.

 

[Fez909]

My 'worry' would be, and i'm 'defending' Suarez here. If, for example, Suarez got a charge then how does Pepe not getting a charge look? It's a recipe for disaster. Once you get legal sanctions will teams/owners demand compo if a player is injured? Will they demand a retrospective trophy etc etc? It would open up a ludicrous can of worms.

I see what you're saying and it's a minefield, but don't they already claim when a player gets injured?

 

[Fedayn]

I see what you're saying and it's a minefield, but don't they already claim when a player gets injured?

They have a compo set up as I remember. But once criminal sanctions open up then it'd be a nightmare.

 

[Badgers]

They have a compo set up as I remember. But once criminal sanctions open up then it'd be a nightmare.

Especially after being 'robbed by the ref' and other classics

 

[friedaweed]

This is why people are saying it seems like some kind of compulsion or something. In high pressure situations you can see that he stops thinking straight. He's goes into trouble mode and gets a look in his eyes. It doesn't always stop him playing well but the cheating starts and you feel he could do a full Joey Barton any minute.

I actually wonder if he has the full mad Gladiator complex thing going on. Maybe in his mind or that of his agents notoriety, good or bad, will make him one of the most famous players of his era. Like there's no bad press bollix in bizzniss sort of shite.

I pretty much knew he would do something daft on this sort of stage. I said to the kids at half time shall we turn over to see if Luis has been sent off yet

 

[el-ahrairah]

nah, that was an assault. not an over-enthusiastic tackle. it was completely out of order. it was either a pre-meditated attack, or the boy needs some serious psychiatric treatment. once you say that all behaviour on the football pitch can only be subject to toothless football association jurisdiction you have instituted a charter that allows bullies and the most popular / financially lucrative players to behave with almost complete impunity.

personally i think if someone tries to deliberately hurt me, pretending that it's alright because it's sports is dead wrong.

 

[Favelado]

I actually wonder if he has the full mad Gladiator complex thing going on. Maybe in his mind or that of his agents notoriety, good or bad, will make him one of the most famous players of his era. Like there's no bad press bollix in bizzniss sort of shite.

I pretty much knew he would do something daft on this sort of stage. I said to the kids at half time shall we turn over to see if Luis has been sent off yet

In general he seemed to keep it in check last season, but do you remember the (I think) City game while Liverpool were behind? He looked like he was going to do something weird any second. That something could have been anything from spitting in someone's face to a fight to a bite to I don't know what. Even with all the work the club must have done with him, including our highly rated sports psychologist guy, I think it was lucky he didn't do one of his specials at any point.

 

[sleaterkinney]

I really don't get the guy, this is the third time he's done it. He has had a fantastic season and wc so far, where did this come out of?