The demo during the Gaza bombing, a little boy asked me to let him go on the megaphone I was holding for someone and started shouting kill the Jews! through it, copying the other people I heard shouting it too no doubt. The Islamists need to be confronted because to many people put up with it or worse still get involved with some of their fuckwitted organisations.
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Spion
I hear ya
It really is a bit of a stretch to see anything sinister in a chant that calls for palestinians to be free
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Sad isn't it?
danny la rouge
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My sadness is for the kid IC3D posts about. What kind of a chance does he stand? I hope someone is able to put him right.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
river to the sea is an anti-zionist chant. there did definitely seem to be a higher percentage of fuckwits on saturday than normal, the one time I heard anti-semitic bollocks on the demo during the gaza one in 2009 he was told pretty fucking quickly to pack it in.
tangentlama
Nameless voices crying
i thought it was a chant about freedom of movement?
Spion
I hear ya
"God is not so great" LOLz
tangentlama
Nameless voices crying
G-d is great, it's humanity that's not so great.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I'd prefer the nutjobs to be asked to belt up or leave. And by nutjobs I mean the "kill the Jews" bollocks.
Spion
I hear ya
It just talks about Palestine being free, which I take to mean Palestinians having democratic rights in historic Palestine.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
If the pan-dimensional CSA catch up with her she is in serious trouble for Neglection of a World
tangentlama
Nameless voices crying
Again, that's humanity's fault.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I'd prefer the nutjobs to be asked to belt up or leave. And by nutjobs I mean the "kill the Jews" bollocks.
Anyone with a fucking "Property of Allah" tshirt and those black flags as well because that slogan is linked to an islamist political organisation and they're the ones that are always shouting islamist slogans. Some of those home made banners as well ...
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
How do they feel Jewish people who go on those demos due to their disgust at Israel will feel, especially if they're coming on the demos for the first time. Oh yeah, they don't think about that.
Cunts. Funny thing is that they are probably a really small percentage of the people who marched but it only takes about five people to fuck it up for everyone.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I'd prefer the nutjobs to be asked to belt up or leave. And by nutjobs I mean the "kill the Jews" bollocks.
No. They just need to be told to go home immediately, no questions asked, one strike and you're out. If the BFF and other neo-nazis were marching in support of gaza we would tell them to go home if they started shouting Heil Hitler or similar kill the jews bollocks. We should do that in this case.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Aye, that's fair enough.
The anti-semitic stuff is exactly what the Zionists would accuse anti-Israeli demos of being all about.
It seems that they have a point.
That's worth reflecting on, at least more than just saying - they should pack it in, leave it out, unacceptable etc....
It needs a bit more analysis than that.
It seems that they have a point.
That's worth reflecting on, at least more than just saying - they should pack it in, leave it out, unacceptable etc....
It needs a bit more analysis than that.
Spion
I hear ya
It's not what they're 'all about' tho is it? It's a smear and a lie to suggest otherwise
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
No it doesn't. It needs no analysis. Everyone knows that anti-Israeli demos are going to attract anti-semitic nutters. The same as Iraq war demos attracted people who supported Saddam. The same as the Darfur demos attracted zionists waving Israeli flags, looking for a reason to say, "look, they're worse!" None of those were the reason for the demo. The darfur demos were not zionist or anti-muslim, but they ended up being highjacked. It's not a big existenial crisis.
The anti-cuts and anti-tory demos are going to attract the SWP and supporters of Stalin and North Korea, that doesn't mean anything either.
The anti-cuts and anti-tory demos are going to attract the SWP and supporters of Stalin and North Korea, that doesn't mean anything either.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
But they don't have a point.
Well, clearly they do.
Some of the people on that demo want an end to the Jewish race.
That needs to be addressed.
You can't just ignore them or muscle them out of the way.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That makes no sense whatsoever. It could only make sense if those demos were all about being anti-semitic. Are they?
Circular tosh.
tangentlama
Nameless voices crying
Anyone with a fucking "Property of Allah" tshirt and those black flags as well because that slogan is linked to an islamist political organisation and they're the ones that are always shouting islamist slogans. Some of those home made banners as well ...
Which black flags? The ones which say the Shahada?
Would you also ban Christian articles of faith from political marches? Do churches march with their church banners? An example would be 'Name of Methodist Church - Amnesty International' or something similar. I ask because the local Amnesty group meets at the local methodist church here, but is not only for Christians to attend.
How about CND marches, should Church banners be banned?
Is the wearing of a t-shirt saying 'Property of G-d' political or religious?
Spion
I hear ya
how do you suggest that's done?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Some of the people on the darfur demo wanted to wipe palestinians out. So what? Tell them - fuck off and go home. We don't want you here.
Some of the people on the anti-cuts demos are going to think that the glorious regime of Kim Jong Il is going to be the way to go, that Stalin didn't murder millions of people, that everything else is just "propaganda" (sorry ern). Fuck them off.
The end.
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