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Is the High Street doomed

I ventured into Cardiff centre last week and was really surprised at the amount of fast food delivery cyclists both en-route and hanging around in groups, the city centre seems to be turning into as much of a shithole as Swansea, but that aside....I wonder why there is such a demand for delivered fast food, are millennials too fucking lazy or feckless to even go to Gregs/subways/Mcdonuts, let alone actually cook something?
Or are they all chained to Ikea desks in call centres not allowed out for a break?
Its a fucking horrible situation whichever way you look at it
 
I ventured into Cardiff centre last week and was really surprised at the amount of fast food delivery cyclists both en-route and hanging around in groups, the city centre seems to be turning into as much of a shithole as Swansea, but that aside....I wonder why there is such a demand for delivered fast food, are millennials too fucking lazy or feckless to even go to Gregs/subways/Mcdonuts, let alone actually cook something?
Or are they all chained to Ikea desks in call centres not allowed out for a break?
Its a fucking horrible situation whichever way you look at it
There aren't more fast food delivery guys, you just didn't see them before because they were using cars. They're selling their cars and buying E-Bike conversions to do it on instead because of the cost of living (bikes are cheaper to run than cars and you can do deliveries faster on them therefore making more).
 
Having lived where I do for over 30 years my high street has radically changed,It used to have such a diverse range of shops including 2 banks, fish shop,butcher,bakers and a thriving supermarket.Only the butchers has survived.We are now left with a sainsburys local,a high end fruit and veg store and a lot of cafes ,charity shops and take out establishments.
 
I guess the covid lockdown changed a few habits and led to more deliveries. Also more resturants do delivery now since just eat and deliveroo started as they can use just eat's staff to deliver and don't need to do their own websites or apps. Used to be just pizza and a few curry places. Near me they mostly use cars though but may be different elsewhere.
 
Having lived where I do for over 30 years my high street has radically changed,It used to have such a diverse range of shops including 2 banks, fish shop,butcher,bakers and a thriving supermarket.Only the butchers has survived.We are now left with a sainsburys local,a high end fruit and veg store and a lot of cafes ,charity shops and take out establishments.
No barbers and nail bars?
 
I suppose you don't notice delivery cars so much as you'd notice and increase in the bikes, which have more obnoxious advertising on them
 
I ventured into Cardiff centre last week and was really surprised at the amount of fast food delivery cyclists both en-route and hanging around in groups, the city centre seems to be turning into as much of a shithole as Swansea, but that aside....I wonder why there is such a demand for delivered fast food, are millennials too fucking lazy or feckless to even go to Gregs/subways/Mcdonuts, let alone actually cook something?
Or are they all chained to Ikea desks in call centres not allowed out for a break?
Its a fucking horrible situation whichever way you look at it
change of habits for many people. some are simply going out less and would rather get a takeaway, I'd imagine - especially if you can get it from the same place. same as food shopping, clothes shopping, cinema...
I read something about the upturn in people making coffee at home and buying beans is also hitting takeaway coffee places - when Costa shuts, you know the high street is fucked.
 
I don't know how people justify the cost of delivery and service from Deliveroo / Just Eat. I mean fair enough if you're ordering for 5 or 6 and it's like a £80 quid order, but people getting a big mac and fries are paying as much for delivery and service as the food. I just cannot justify that logic in my head.
 
I don't know how people justify the cost of delivery and service from Deliveroo / Just Eat. I mean fair enough if you're ordering for 5 or 6 and it's like a £80 quid order, but people getting a big mac and fries are paying as much for delivery and service as the food. I just cannot justify that logic in my head.
Some people have them every day!
 
I know a client who regularly gets food delivered like this. The orders are placed by his daughter who lives miles away.
 
No barbers and nail bars?
There are 19 places for a haircut in Dorking. 19. Look at this shit

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Dorking is a town of 11,000 people. Including the nearby villages bumps that up to about 17,000 people. It can’t possibly justify 19 salons. So one regularly goes bust, at which point another two seem to open.

And don’t get me started on whether the town really needs 12 fuckin’ nail bars.

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There are 19 places for a haircut in Dorking. 19. Look at this shit

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Dorking is a town of 11,000 people. Including the nearby villages bumps that up to about 17,000 people. It can’t possibly justify 19 salons. So one regularly goes bust, at which point another two seem to open.

And don’t get me started on whether the town really needs 12 fuckin’ nail bars.

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That’s a lot of laundering!
 
On just one road where I live in Leicester, there was about 12 barbers last count along less than a half mile stretch. Not many nailbars though. They're all on a different street.
 
There are 19 places for a haircut in Dorking. 19. Look at this shit

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Dorking is a town of 11,000 people. Including the nearby villages bumps that up to about 17,000 people. It can’t possibly justify 19 salons. So one regularly goes bust, at which point another two seem to open.

And don’t get me started on whether the town really needs 12 fuckin’ nail bars.

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and all cash only!
 
The delivery meal boom is almost over I think, if it's not already done. Certainly I've stopped using it and I'm not on my uppers, it's just obviously ludicrous to be paying that much money for a meal. I doubt their current demographic is particularly Millennial, more just "don't want to" or "don't need to" think about the price types.

All the major players have been continuing to rack up massive losses with no end in sight, and the angel investors which had been funding them are staring at a massive downturn in the tech industry. None of it looks remotely sustainable, they're squeezed between the problem that delivery is costly (there's a reason sending any medium-sized package by courier costs a few quid - equipment/fuel/wages etc all have to be paid somehow) and the fact that the public is looking to save atm, not spend more.
 
The delivery meal boom is almost over I think, if it's not already done. Certainly I've stopped using it and I'm not on my uppers, it's just obviously ludicrous to be paying that much money for a meal. I doubt their current demographic is particularly Millennial, more just "don't want to" or "don't need to" think about the price types.

All the major players have been continuing to rack up massive losses with no end in sight, and the angel investors which had been funding them are staring at a massive downturn in the tech industry. None of it looks remotely sustainable, they're squeezed between the problem that delivery is costly (there's a reason sending any medium-sized package by courier costs a few quid - equipment/fuel/wages etc all have to be paid somehow) and the fact that the public is looking to save atm, not spend more.
Yeah at the very least it's bound to be cyclical, not being sustainable in the bad times (these are the bad times). But then I've just started getting allplants orders, which reduce cost by delivering frozen food and delivering multiple meals at once. It's way healthier than either supermarket food or takeaway food. But it's not the high street either.
 
Yeah at the very least it's bound to be cyclical, not being sustainable in the bad times (these are the bad times). But then I've just started getting allplants orders, which reduce cost by delivering frozen food and delivering multiple meals at once. It's way healthier than either supermarket food or takeaway food. But it's not the high street either.
How is it healthier than supermarket food?
You can buy fresh fruit and veg and other groceries from supermarkets, not just ready meals. Supermarkets are cheaper in that respect from independent high street shops.
 
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IIRC there was some evidence that takeaways can do very well in economic recessions. The idea being that although people are cutting back, a lot will decide not to go for a meal in a restaurant or whatever but splash out on a takeaway instead. No idea how strongly that holds though.
Sue I could see takeaway doing alright, but the simultaneous food/energy price inflation crisis is already pushing hard at that "can takeaway but can't dine out" bracket, and adding £3.99 on top is getting into "it's already expensive, I'll just go get it myself" territory.
 
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