Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
he's familiar with brock
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
To be fair I think the vote will go ahead this time. Can't see any reason for it not to. What's interesting is the general lack of chat about what will happen when May loses the vote.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Isn't a potential reason for it being pulled again contained in your last sentence?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
a debate about which lamppost to string her up from
andysays
Love and solidarity
The stated reason for it being postponed was that it wouldn't pass; I don't think it's any more likely to pass next week than last month, so if it was a valid reason then, it's still more or less valid now.
And I think there has been some speculation from some about what might happen when May loses, but part of her 'strategy' is to portray the while thing as if her deal is literally the only possibility, so such speculation is discouraged.
And I think there has been some speculation from some about what might happen when May loses, but part of her 'strategy' is to portray the while thing as if her deal is literally the only possibility, so such speculation is discouraged.
ska invita
back on the other side
A Labour soft Brexit (customs and trade union) would be preferable to the EU over whats on the table and I think they would reopen "negotiations" (a lot less to negotiate tbh) if that became a possibility.
ska invita
back on the other side
Pure theatre....we already now how it looks and works because of Stack (4,600 lorries stretched back 30 miles)
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Isn't a potential reason for it being pulled again contained in your last sentence?
Yeah but I think the vote was always going to be lost - I reckon it was delayed more because people advising May wanted her to lose the vote a bit closer to March than she was going to. Before lots of Tories wanted it delayed, now only May will.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
As I recall, that was Ed Miliband’s strategy for dealing with the popularity of the SNP. I don’t recall what happened next — he was wildly successful, right?
ska invita
back on the other side
That seems wrong on both points it makes.
The reason there is no more negotiations is based on the fact that there's no way May wants free movement. If she did then there's plenty to talk about.
And the vote of no confidence will happen next week and fail by the sounds of it, so not sure why the author is so excited about that. Sucked into the SNP playbook by the sounds of things.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
That 'Wings Over Scotland' site has been discussed at some length on here previously...
Wings Over Scotland
Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
Crowd on BBC news channel chanting 'soubry is a nazi'. Getting a bit lively!
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Why don't you fuck off? That wasn't a discussion that was just the usual shit-throwing from danny who also says the indy movement has a racism problem and then there was his michelle thomson thread as well.
You're the twat that says the woman with cancer who was worried about her medicine was being 'preposterously hyperbolic' two pages ago, aye? Why don't you fuck off to her twitter page and tell her that, come back and tell us what she says?
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Alright, chill out bawbag.
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Does he need your help?
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
andysays
Love and solidarity
What, from those people's point of view, would be the purpose of losing the vote in Jan 2019 rather than Dec 2018?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the aftermath won't ruin christmas
Just tried to find this on BBC site (also subsearched site for 'Soubry') and I'm not suceeding ... what's that all about then?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the forum rules explicitly state teuchter should never be assistedI thought you did
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Not enough time to negotiate a new deal or hold a second referendum, so it becomes a choice between no deal or no Brexit.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh, so this time next year it's entirely possible we will still be in the eu without the doubtful pleasure of a second referendum
Calamity1971
If Mr Peanut says It's okay, then it is.
Simon McCoy was interviewing her outside parliament and a crowd kicked off chanting it.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
bobby ewing brexit - "it was all a dream..."
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Because my issue wasn't with her - hyperbolic or not her fears may well be understandable - but with your posting of a response to what as far as I can see was a fake poster/leaflet. The regurgitation of meaningless social media rubbish that just muddles discussion of the real risks of a no-deal Brexit.
andysays
Love and solidarity
So what would the preferred outcome of these 'people advising May' which they think can be better achieved by losing the vote later?
I agree that there is more chance of either no deal or no Brexit, but surely the danger is that they get the option they're least keen on rather than the one they'd prefer.
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