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Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)

I mentioned in the 5G conspiracy thread I knew someone that had moved from general hippie health food and nonsense healing stuff into anti-vax, and then downwards into increasing levels of conspiracy theory stuff (CV is fake, Rothschilds, 5G, NWO, etc.) and she has been posting all this antifa are funded terrorists, it's all false flag stuff, paid for rioting etc etc. and the posts above are where it ends, people might get killed by the out-pouring of shit that she's helping with that results in people in the US taking guns to confront 'antifa' in their towns.

It's like dark form of the butterfly flaps it's wings chaos theory; a hippie posts some conspiracy theory shit on their FB in the UK, and across the globe some angry fucked up small town person in the US kills someone thinking they're taking out a Soros funded antifa false flag terrorist.

Fucking conspiracy theory hippies. :mad:
My kid's grandma is rapidly heading down that route - she's always been a bit woo, but has been getting increasingly into conspiracy theory and anti-vax stuff since she got involved with the anti-fracking protests a few years ago. I visited a website she shared something from last month (it was an interview with that Plandemic woman) and there was full on holocaust denial books on sale, among other nearly as rank stuff. Pointed this out to her and she didn't give a fuck.
 
I mentioned in the 5G conspiracy thread I knew someone that had moved from general hippie health food and nonsense healing stuff into anti-vax, and then downwards into increasing levels of conspiracy theory stuff (CV is fake, Rothschilds, 5G, NWO, etc.) and she has been posting all this antifa are funded terrorists, it's all false flag stuff, paid for rioting etc etc. and the posts above are where it ends, people might get killed by the out-pouring of shit that she's helping with that results in people in the US taking guns to confront 'antifa' in their towns.

It's like dark form of the butterfly flaps it's wings chaos theory; a hippie posts some conspiracy theory shit on their FB in the UK, and across the globe some angry fucked up small town person in the US kills someone thinking they're taking out a Soros funded antifa false flag terrorist.

Fucking conspiracy theory hippies. :mad:

I have a mate who is a conspiracy nut. He's latest wheeze is that BLM is funded by the elite to cause rioting and looting. The elite are apparently all ex-slavers or something. That includes Cisco for some reason. I pointed out that they didn't even exist until 1984 so not sure what their link to slavery is.
 
Yeah I think CV and what's going on now fits into being this meta-conspiracy for some:

Coronoavirus is fake, and the lockdown is being used to get us used to social control measures, and then to usher in compulsory vaccines that have an RFID thing in to enable us to be tracked by 5G for the NWO. And the riots and BLM stuff is all engineered and funded chaos to destablize us further and justify crackdowns as well as part of this grand plan. It all fits together now...
 
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Man who delivered a parcel to me last week was of that view, it’s all of it planned and all about the NWO but when I asked him who was going to benefit from all of this, and how, he had nothing. I said I thought he was being silly and he didn’t seem to mind that. Anyway wrong thread.
 
Yeah I think CV and what's going on now fits into being this meta-conspiracy for some:

Coronoavirus is fake, and the lockdown is being used to get us used to social control measures, and then to usher in compulsory vaccines that have an RFID thing in to enable us to be tracked by 5G for the NWO. And the riots and BLM stuff is all engineered and funded chaos to destablize us further and justify crackdowns as well as part of this grand plan. It all fits together now...


sounds about right.
and the contact tracing, that's to get biological info and social networking patterns to put in the soros database.
 
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Man who delivered a parcel to me last week was of that view, it’s all of it planned and all about the NWO but when I asked him who was going to benefit from all of this, and how, he had nothing. I said I thought he was being silly and he didn’t seem to mind that. Anyway wrong thread.

:hmm:
 
Well, I am glad I am not the only one who knows someone that has disappeared down this rabbit hole, a good mate of 30+ years has totally lost the plot.

Actually, I should say ex-mate, I can't deal with him anymore, I've blocked his number. :(
 
Man who delivered a parcel to me last week was of that view, it’s all of it planned and all about the NWO but when I asked him who was going to benefit from all of this, and how, he had nothing. I said I thought he was being silly and he didn’t seem to mind that. Anyway wrong thread.

They never seem to like it if you ask why. Why secrete explosives into a tall building when a plane crashing into it is probably enough to spark a government into war mode regardless if it falls? What’s the fucking point in using a phone network to make people ill when just slipping something in the water supply would be much simpler? Impervious to logic usually.
 
They never seem to like it if you ask why. Why secrete explosives into a tall building when a plane crashing into it is probably enough to spark a government into war mode regardless if it falls? What’s the fucking point in using a phone network to make people ill when just slipping something in the water supply would be much simpler? Impervious to logic usually.

The weirdest thing is that I was a huge X-Files fan back in the day, and still have a lot of friends from the XF messageboard (very close friends, too). And we all seem to be pretty much anti-conspiracy now.
 
Yeah I think CV and what's going on now fits into being this meta-conspiracy for some:

Coronoavirus is fake, and the lockdown is being used to get us used to social control measures, and then to usher in compulsory vaccines that have an RFID thing in to enable us to be tracked by 5G for the NWO. And the riots and BLM stuff is all engineered and funded chaos to destablize us further and justify crackdowns as well as part of this grand plan. It all fits together now...

Might be getting a little abstract here, but I had been reading a lot of Hannah Arendt over the couple of years before the pandemic, and one of her observations about totalitarianism was that something being logically consistent becomes more important than being correct, and she connected this to the birth of mass media which could create these kind of logically consistent narrative simulations of reality. Which kind of leads to the situation of trying to destroy anything that contradicts the officially sanctioned public narrative, or of trying to reshape reality to fit the purpose of narrative.

Echo chamber creating algorithms and online conspiracy theory holes make the same phenomenon potentially a lot worse, and I said to a friend when the lockdown started that people sitting at home going down rabbit holes is maybe something to be very afraid of.

I feel like we're in for a pretty dark decade or two....
 
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In bureaucratic legally recognised years, 63. In (my) mutable reality - ageless, peerless, beyond temporal qualification. Happy to embrace my inner crone or swing off the zipline like a 10 year old.

Today though, after a weekend of climbing ladders, fixing guttering, removing algae, shunting timber and sawing wood, I feel crocked, ancient and doddery.

I’m in my thirties and I feel knackered
 
The weirdest thing is that I was a huge X-Files fan back in the day, and still have a lot of friends from the XF messageboard (very close friends, too). And we all seem to be pretty much anti-conspiracy now.

That's because you can appreciate the difference between an entertaining TV show designed to entertain and for want of a better phrase 'the real world'. It's a good skill to get a handle on.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice
 
I couldn't get to that link -- I had an EU/GDPR system-message! :eek:

System message said:
451 : Unavailable due to legal reasons
We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact webmaster@journalstar.com or call 877-760-6006.

That's the first time I've ever had that message, and I click US links (such as the NY Times) quite frequently :confused:
 
I mentioned in the 5G conspiracy thread I knew someone that had moved from general hippie health food and nonsense healing stuff into anti-vax, and then downwards into increasing levels of conspiracy theory stuff (CV is fake, Rothschilds, 5G, NWO, etc.) and she has been posting all this antifa are funded terrorists, it's all false flag stuff, paid for rioting etc etc. and the posts above are where it ends, people might get killed by the out-pouring of shit that she's helping with that results in people in the US taking guns to confront 'antifa' in their towns.

It's like a really dark version of the butterfly flaps its wings chaos theory; a hippie posts some conspiracy theory shit on their FB in the UK, and across the globe some angry fucked up small town person in the US kills someone thinking they're taking out a Soros funded antifa false flag terrorist.

Fucking conspiracy theory hippies. :mad:

Sorry to quote earlier posts in a weird order, but I've just seen the above.

I agree with absolutely all of it -- except for the very last word -- 'hippies' :thumbsdown:

There's a huge bit of the Venn diagram** in which hippies who aren't conspiracy-nutcases live! :hmm: :mad: ;) ... including plenty of hippies who actively hate conspiracy-bollocks!
(and sorry for derail there -- but this false equivalence of hippies and CTers is a frequently-occurring thing on Urban and it's just a lazy cliche IMO)

**The Venn Diagram Arms -- quality cider and beer for sale :p
 
Is it really wise for a privileged white man to get offended by the word hippie on a thread like this?
I did apologise for the derail and still do.
Also, there's been plenty of recent derails on this thread from others as well as myself -- I didn't notice you digging at them.
Even the conspiracy theory chat up there was, strictly-speaking, off-topic, at least partly. And I didn't start that.
So get off my back please-- you're further derailing the thread yourself, by having that pointless pop at me.
 
I did apologise for the derail and still do.
Also, there's been plenty of recent derails on this thread from others as well as myself -- I didn't notice you digging at them.
Even the conspiracy theory chat up there was, strictly-speaking, off-topic, at least partly. And I didn't start that.
So get off my back please-- you're further derailing the thread yourself, by having that pointless pop at me.
I suppose this post is on topic as it’s a good example of white fragility
 
I suppose this post is on topic as it’s a good example of white fragility
Excellent and well designed (second) dig! (Just seen it).
Fair enough for skills there :cool:
Because any response at all from me will continue any off-topic-ness in this thread.
Derail that I added to ;) but which you continued.

Anyway, here's something that's actually thread-relevant -- Nesrine Malik had an excellent go yesterday at how almost all criticisms of protests amount to establishment co-option and efforts at neutralising.

Guardian headline said:
When polite petitions and humble pleas are ignored, protest is essential

Nesrine Malik said:
... these rules must be respected – because conservatives will always hold them up to stymie any change, and because liberals are afraid to admit that most of our rules and norms are neither definitive nor universally observed. They are afraid to shatter the illusion and face the reality that so many of these rules are, in fact, broken all the time by people who can get away with it: tax avoiders, labour exploiters, vote manipulators. And so it is those who cannot get away with breaking the rules who are told they must uphold what is left of this order; it is their responsibility to ensure that the slope does not get too slippery and allow us all to slide into chaos.

(Apologies if this article has already been linked to/quoted anywhere)
 
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